How do you chose your partymembers?
Why would anyone do that? I haven’t run my own key in ages. I just keep getting siege and I’m not touching that key unless it’s the easiest affix combo possible. People are just incapable of doing that key it seems. It’s the key with the most amount of leavers I’ve ever seen.
That’s such an infantile thing to say about the matter.
Beggars can’t be choosers.
I have no idea why you quoted me and posted that reply.
Wont happen by grouping up using a system which can tell if a player completed that dungeon, how often he completed it and how good or bad he did it.
It does and will. Tried to SoB earlier, complete clown tank and he was 3k rio. I’ve never seen a tank take so much damage. I’m sitting there pushing everything into him and he’s still dying.
So you dont want to play your own keys because of leavers and bad people but complain about a system invented to sort them out.
K.
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This doesn’t address anything I said. The guy was 3k rio and is dying in a +15 because he’s taking so much damage it’s unhealable. How is that even possible to play so bad that you take so much damage a 480 holy paladin can’t keep you alive in a +15?
Have also had a 3k rio player claim it’s a bug that bosses get bolstered when he pulled a pack into a boss and the boss promptly wiped the floor with us after the boss got bolstered.
The value of score isn’t static. People who are 3k this late into the season would have barely scraped 2k last season. Put a bit of thought into it and maybe you will eventually find it useful.
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That 3k rio guy who claimed it was a bug with bosses bolstering was ages ago.
Trusting rio to be representative of skill is as much of a throw of a dice as SR is in OW. So many people who are at a rating they shouldn’t be at when you see them play and you can actually lose rating in that game when you lose, unlike in WoW’s rio system. I’ve encountered so many people with higher scores that just… I question if they have a brain sometimes.
Ages as in earlier this season or previous seasons? Because 3k was pretty solid in any season except this one and I find it hard to believe a 3k tank wouldn’t know that bosses get bolstered.
But I’ve seen my share of questionable things in higher scores, although very rarely that questionable. So it could have very well happened. Could it be that he was a 3k dps on an alt tank? DPS players are much more easily boosted where they don’t belong than tanks.
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Earlier this season.
Also had a 2.2k rated guy when I was trying to get my +15 in WM get lost. How do people even get lost in there? Especially after 2 years of BFA? How do they still get lost? Do they not learn the layout of the dungeon when they play it or what?
Then we still had 2 extra dungeons to net us score, not to mention corruptions. The top groups were getting 5k score very early into the season and 6k followed quickly, that is already thousands above the previous seasons’s top scores. You said it yourself, judging by score is not enough. You need to realize the value of the score in relation to the role, class, and mainly the season/amount of score to be had, plus seeing the experience of the player with said dungeon.
A few things:
I explained to you what community managers do within the community, and they are not here to decide to ban an addon or are even close in making a decision as such.
They are also just acting as a spokesperson between developers and players and are literally only told what they can tell people.
rio is free to use by everyone who wishes to use it.
Paying a patreon fee to support their work and their costs they make is optional and in no way ‘‘needed’’ to use the addon.
The behaviour you are talking about has been around since vanilla, and addons get blamed for this behaviour all the time.
But even with addons being removed that made this behaviour possible, people still can act like entitled morons.
Gearscore got disabled by Blizzard to then introduce their own ‘‘gearscore’’ addon in the game. By showing item level in the character screen and the introduction of the Armory.
However i agree to some degree there is a major issue with this:
If each player who is running M+ (be that +2s or +28s) has to agree to rio using their API data from the Blizzard armory, it gives rio a monopoly like position.
If you dont agree, you wont show any score or experience, making it harder for people to figure out if they wanna take you (armory is ofc still an option) which may cause the: ow no rio so no invite movement to happen.
But if you do agree, you are also potentially in danger of not getting an invite. Because the group you apply for has set requirements for their group which arent listed in their LFG title.
So removing or changing how Rio works, when it takes public data from the armory / M+ leaderboards will be a hard one to tackle and might not have the intended result.
Denying a player with a lower score into your group isnt discrimination.
The community is capable enough to make their own groups, and with that they can set their own standards.
Just because you ran a mythic 15 (whatever key) doesnt mean you should get invited for all mythic 15s by any group you apply for.
Boosting services really flourished and picked up speed during Mists of Pandaria with the challenge mode sets. Since they were so unique and well designed (for most classes) and were seen as a real prestige object at the time.
But even before then, you could buy HC kills on final raid bosses for gold for a loooooooooooooooong time.
People using rio properly, to vet their applicants and decide which is the best candidate for the job, see right through boosted players.
Easy example:
Rio addon shows the following:
15s and up: 12+ (timed)
10-14: 3 or 4 (timed)
2-9: 3 or 4 runs (timed)
You will easily get identified as a boosted player and dont receive an invite, because the ratio of all other runs dont match up with timed 15s or higher.
Not sure where you get the notion of the fact rio is actually a paid addon for people.
Damn, you must have a hard time applying for jobs in the real world, since most questions asked during interviews are based on what the interviewers made up from your resume and are trying to judge your experience based on said resume / conversation.
Your whole argument is based upon:
Community is ruined because of addon. No arguments only you kicking and screaming that the game is ruined due to 1 optional addon that is a nice tool for many of us playing the game, or atleast can be a nice tool if used correctly.
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Today CV tommorow what? sending my stol sample so someone can sniff before invite? And offcourse pressing “space” in stormwind another 3 hours before stol package arrive to him… Fact is, rio turned WoW into second job, and this is wrong, and enough reason to ban this pagan addon out…
In past people also measured themself…but no tool was that bad as rio, and no of those method was so payable with money as rio. Its retarded how people become obsessed with third party spyware rio number while anyone who wish can buy desired number…hmmmm… did i smell boosting customers tryin to defend what they payed for? Smells like fish to me.
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Because tanking M+ is also team work. When I tanked M+ I also took a lot of damage in places- except when DPS actually stunned, kicked and did dps correct target.
So was it only tanks fault or did dps not do their job ? Low dps also causes tanks to take “a lot of” damage.
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Sorry. but every tool prior this was worse. Gearscore ? Gear-scan, AH inspect… please… ilevels… Gearscore was the most moronic way to measure anyone’s experience. And Blizzard adding ilevels was not very smart move… as suddenly it was normalized to ask ilevel higher for content that was being PUged.
I bet you’re a pleasant person to play and chat with. I can’t see a reason why people might not want to play with you.
You also seem to be very knowledgeable on the topic you’re talking about. I’m sure you must have researched everything thoroughly before you came here with the very honest and factual claims. I truly believe you know exactly how this addons works and why it should be banned.
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Well Rio is basiclly used 95% of the time to demand an engineer education for cleaning toilets. Rio per say is a good way for high end players to filter out players for very high keys. But a majority of players play at a much lower level and demand scores way above what the dungeon at hand needs.
Just seeing the three highest keys a player has done this season is more than enough for me to decide whatever to bring them or not to a dungeon and if I’m gonna push I will do that with a preset team. And that is something Blizzard can add themself. A 3rd party addon that gathers tons of fact aint good.
I admire you saying how awful others are and then with no sense of irony call anyone that dares to defend rio a sweaty neckbeard, amongst other things. (Though later you say you’ve been a gamer for 20 years!)
Confused posting ftw.
Good riddance when you leave if I’m honest.