BAN Raider.IO

Ban raider io and people will be even less likely to invite you, as they will open your actual profile.

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Because the chat options of wow are crap. Yes, blizz can change that of course too. But it needs a change.

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He isnt telling you how to play.
He simply described he uses discord to socialize.

Discord is simply ventrilo or teamspeak but better.

Funny thing is, all the comments you make, are about a community that has disappeared from the game.

Every reply suggesting communities / guilds and other ways to interact with other players (discord / etc) are “denied” by you.

So the issue isnt raider io, you are the issue.

And as mentioned a 100 times or even more now, it wont change elitism or toxic behaviour as something else will take its place.

So drop your whole: the community is ruined “argument”

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Well not being able to get into alot of +7/+8 because your Rio aint high enough when you three chested a +10 in that very dungeon kinda says your more than quilifed to tackle it. Happend to me alot first tier of BFA because I focused on Atal’Dazar because its loot table is amazing for Prot Paladin.

Not really that intrested in running dungeons I don’t really care about in the startup of an expansion. And I don’t care about Rio because lets face it anyone with two hands can do +10 in all dungeons and get the score up so I don’t really see the need of using it for dungeons of those difficulties tells me nothing about the players other that they play alot. And that is not something that ensures skill.

The brutally honest realist can accept the reality of rio.

Realist indeed.

This thread passed farce 500 posts ago and dipped into trainwreck.

Yet you failed to time an 8 underrot.

:thinking:

See once again Rio doesnt tell the whole story as always, I acutally know which run that is because I just got back after nearly 1.5 year away from the game. And that group was extremly bad talking people that got hit by the cleave from the big guys in start and diying etc. Of course those players all had the Rio the leader asked for and still failed badly. So they having high enough Rio didnt help did it.

And sadly just coming back to the game didnt leave me much of an option to carry the group hard from my tanking spot normally when I’m up to date with gear I can easily carry both 1 and 2 pretty bad damage dealers np in standard keys.

But thanks for proving my point that Rio doesnt say that much especielly not for lower keys to mid level keys. Also proved another point that it makes people judge people without the full story.

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Sorry but I cannot accept that some third party addon crazed entire WoW community and swayed game into idiotic direction… addon which is main responsible for flourish of boosting services, discrimination ,judgment of people before you even play with them. Blizzard shoud rid their game from this addon like you rid your dog from fleas.

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Ah yes of course.

It was totally the others that all failed. You were top deeps, top heals, flawlessly executed and all that. Yawn.

You literally just said anyone with 2 hands can tome a +10 yet its patently not true. Please stop lying to us.

So, like I said. Not a realist. If you can’t accept reality, you ain’t a realist.

I quit the game week 3 of M Uldir prog and resubbed for classic 3 months ago on a completely fresh account.

I boosted a holy priest, a class that I’ve never mained though obviously pretty easy, and geared exclusively through M+ until I was invited to my guild’s heroic and mythic runs with the help of none of said guild’s guildmates.

HPriest is perceived to be a bottom two healer alongside RSham, but I never struggled to find pugs. Yeah I get denied but I keep on queuing into dungeons even though I’m extremely behind in essences and corruption.

In the span of just one week I got up to 1000 RIO and managed to get into multiple +15 runs at ~460 ilvl without AOTC. There are many runs that we didn’t complete in time, from as low as a +5 to the aforementioned +15s.

Keep applying for pugs. If your RIO is too low then queue for dungeons that can help up your RIO score. Saying “I know how to do a +15 trust me I know I’ve never 3 chested one on this account but it’s my teammates fault” isn’t going to convince anyone, with or without RIO that you’re actually capable of clearing +15s.

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Wow learn to read I never said either of those things. Stop putting words in my mouth seriously.

Also yes anyone with 2 hands should be able to time a +10 of course that doesnt mean it always happen.

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Wowhead and MMOchamp have skyrocketed the WoW community with their “third party websites”. Accept the community as part of the game. RIO is what the vast majority of the playerbase wants. TotalRP is an external system that is widely used for ERPing, should that been banned from the game too?

Before the existence and widespread use of RIO we invited randoms based on an achievement called KSM. Some groups even got applicants to link AOTC. These means are far more discriminatory and judgmental as it’s even less reflective of a player’s actual ability. Unfortunately we actually need to gauge if a player is good enough for a key that will deplete.

It’s sad that you get rejected from keys that you think you can do at your ilvl and skill level but having a higher RIO score is actually the best workaround for it. You’re always free to run your own key or do it with a guild group where other player’s keys won’t be at risk of depletion.

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And thats why we use tools to minimise the chances of it happening to us.

Don’t like it? Don’t use the tool. Make your own groups or join a community. Stop trying to make your subpar practices the norm.

I don’t really have a problem with getting my Rio scores high if I want reason to why I’m against Rio doesnt really have anything with myself to do its more about a 3rd party program saving information and people judging people based off them even when its not needed.

Gone are the days were you’d just LFG in town and go on adventure and often make friends.

All those addons and creep systems are just sad tbh and the result of the gogogo mentality.

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You know there’s a functionality in RIO that checks your best run in each dungeon right? So the party lead can see how well you did?

If pugs aren’t accepting you then maybe there’s another reason? Sounds like you’re blaming one single factor for a very generic problem. You’re judging RIO harder than you think people are judging your RIO.

Maybe they don’t want another plate wearer, or another paladin, or they’re looking specifically for a prot warrior.

“I’ve watched tons of baking videos and anyone with two hands can bake a cake, I know I’ve never done it but that’s because baking is actually an unfair and judgemental measure to see how well I bake cakes.”

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I’ve made quite a few friends through M+. My favourite activity in WoW in Legion was running keys with guildies and chatting in the meantime. The nature of pushing keys is that they’re difficult and they’re timed so it doesn’t allow for a lot of chatting.

Tell me how the existence of an addon removes the functionality to make friends? If they have the same RIO score as me I’m more inclined to add them and play with them again, and so I’m more prone to making friends if anything.

Say we remove RIO, are you going to suddenly have 20 more friends from spamming “LF +15 TD” in trade? The effect is the exact same. I’m still going to check each applicant’s armory to see that I don’t have to carry dead weight.

In contrast, going into LFG has netted me with 3 familiar names and 1 BNet friend that I don’t talk to at all in classic. Not saying that this is universal, but that I’ve made more friends doing M+ than in classic trade chat.

What are you on about?

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Acutally I just took that Atal’Dazar as an example and it was true for the start of the expansion but quite shortly after I did have all dungeons cleared and didnt really have a problem with getting into groups.

I don’t usally have problems getting into groups but in that specific instance I had since I focused Atal’Dazar early on when m+ opened up due to 7/9 items in the loot table kinda was bis I believe so by far the best dungeon for me. So the addon doesnt really tell the full truth.

But that is besides the point I got by an adapted to it so it doesnt stop me from doing stuff, I’m against Rio for entirely different reasons. And right now I just don’t care at all I just wait for Shadowlands because thats why I comeback to the game to try to push as hard as we can with 2 days 3h’s per night a week. Hopefully top 400.

Like said earlier a 3rd party tool that collects data and is used to judge people and lets be honest here cause alot of elitism. Just look at this other guy he just goes in and reads up on what I’ve done in the last 4-5 weeks since I returned too the game and judges me based on it and calls that the reason why I don’t like the addon. He also puts words in my mouth I didnt even say.

No acutally we will still use the Dungeon Finder and get the ilvl of people signing up which I think is more than enough for anything below +10 or +15 whatever is the highest key for gear at the point.

Read my comment again, never talked about deleting the addon.

It’s just the gogogo mentality that growed and became worse ever since they copy/pasted that lame system from Diablo 3. That’s your M+ with timers and key.

You even admit running those mythics don’t allow for socializing which was a possible and one of the key features of dungeons way back.

Going with a guild of course you wouldn’t have issues. Finding randoms and getting to know them is much different and was very fun. Now it’s very rare, let alone adding someone on a friendlist.