Rio show what you did, NOT performace.
So ban self made groups?
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Sure. I am fine with an added option for queueing M+. It is not hurting my gameplay at all. it is a different discussion though than BAN Raider io. Also the key-system should be reworked then.
It won’t be an option because no one would que for it except for those that cry that can’t get into keys.
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It shows what someone did of those with an opportunity to do so. The “with an opportunity to do so” is where the error is. That’s ratings reflecting themselves, as I say.
No, I said - “Plus manual groups for those who want them.”
And since everyone in this game gets his own key, everyone has the opportunity 
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And so you think people will risk losing MMR with randos while there is a manual option.
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No, because there is easy rejection by ratings.
Good, then we are in agreement.
You can not get rejected for your own key.
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well simply if u dont like that ppl dont invite you , make own groups it is not hard
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No, there will be people who do manual groups and people who do auto-groups, and many will do both. The number of people in auto-groups will be 10x higher than the number of people in manual groups, but all records will belong to manual groups. It’s a healthy combination. Right now we only have part of it. That’s all.
Are you just making stuff up? I’ve read the post about the error and it makes absolutely no sense. How running more keys creates more error is really beyond me. Of course it’s not completely reflective of the player’s performance, but it’s not meant to be and if you think it is, it only tells me that you have absolutely no clue how to use the addon and how it’s used by players. It gives you basic info on the player’s M+ overal experience and if you so desire you can look into them in more detail. What you do with that info is on you, not on the addon, or any other tool for figuring out who you’re dealing with.
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Sure sure.
It won’t work because if someone start experiencing queues and then wanna go higher where manual grouping is more used, you would have no records, aka reject.
Wait, wait, wait, calm down.
You say that RIO rating is not a perfect reflection of the player’s performance - “Of course it’s not completely reflective of the player’s performance”. The discrepancy between what the add-on thinks is player’s performance and the real player performance is what I call an “error”. Good? Good.
You can take this back - “and if you think it is, it only tells me that you have absolutely no clue how to use the addon and how it’s used by players” - because, as you see, I do not think that the discrepancy is zero. Good? Good.
You can take this back as well - “Are you just making stuff up? I’ve read the post about the error and it makes absolutely no sense.” - because, as you see, we both talk about the add-on measuring performance imperfectly.
Now that we got through it and determined what is meant by the word “error”, read my posts on how this error compounds and gets bigger. After you get through that, observe that all there is in ratings after some point is that error.
Yes, because this is how it is in all other such systems. This is in simply how people prefer to play. :-/ A solo queue always dwarfs a team queue.
You won’t have much success with it in manual groups because you will simply lack people then. Your choice would be to accept a guy from solo queue with a visible portion of a system-managed rating of 2200 or wait a week until your perfect candidate with your custom BS rating.
I repeat, the only reason RIO got so popular is that it was easy - a single number, right on the screen. If it was more elaborate, it would have been a niche with most not bothering.
And i repeat, as someone who is using his own key, we use the specific dungeon information and ignore total score completely. When are you going to use your own key and take responsibility?
And I repeat, when I am doing my own key, I am influenced by RIO because I get to play with much fewer people because a lot of people were dissuaded by RIO. Without a sensible alternative, BS like RIO is dominating.
Look how much you hate it, what does the fact is custom change if is the same for everyone?
Plus, may i ask why someone with no KM or Keystone conqueror is so interested in a system that probably does not even affect you?
Of course, and my 400 rio new mistweaver has the whole world to choose from, and also has instant invites for now.
I don’t hate it, I just say that it is BS and I find it hilarious that you all are sticking for this BS as if it is some gospel. It’s like those Natl Geography movies where they train a pack of monkeys to exhibit a particular response even if it is an irrational one, as an experiment. You are so sure that the rating is good, except it just measures itself. You don’t see it and you never questioned it, so you are just defending it blindly without looking into what it actually is.
As I said, I won’t fight RIO and I accept that we have to live with it. But it is BS, sorry. :- )
I am not interested in it terribly much, I just said that yes, Praetorian is right and most of you are wrong, and explained why. That’s it.
You are just blaming the wrong tool. I am not in the rio-church at all. I am even in a community where it is not allowed to ask for Rio-requirements. But you blame the wrong tool for getting declined.