BAN Raider.IO

No, you do not get it do you. It has nothing to do with RIO, but the reward chest. You really have no idea what you are talking about and have tangled yourself in the web of blind hatred towards add-on that you mix even things.

So please try again.

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And the fact that the Blizzard way of showing completed keys on the armory is extremely inconvenient and user unfriendly.

Yeah, definitely has nothing to do with combining their passion for the game and their passion for coding. Must just greed.

Yeah it’s a terrible system, not convenient and very user unfriendly. Everything except the big bad number is so hard to find on their horrible website and addon. And all the stupid people using it just because it’s easy and not willing to blindly play with the first random Andy they see or are given to by the game.

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Sadly the people who have an agenda against rio and blame their lack of getting into keygroups for it will never listen to any reason or take in any explanations given.

We have shown that it is a pure reflection of a person’s experience in mythic plus, that it shows leaders specific information about the key they are applying to, how many keys they’ve successfully done in various brackets. Like you say it’s just a glorified armory.

PuG content should not become auto queue content. Anyone can build up a score if they want to. If all they care about is doing a weekly then they are free to do their own key every week or just list theirs as a ‘weekly no leavers’. Those groups rarely even care if they time it, they are just after the weekly chest reward in our hub.

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And one of the reasons, if not the only reason, is pushing keys for score/challenge. Playing random keys with randomly assigned players would be a disaster of a system doomed to fail within a month of it’s release.

This is why I used a posters armory here as example to show it that what they saw as fault in RIO is actually just something in armory.

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Exactly. People play M+ for the reward chest. The thing is, they would have that same incentive without RIO. So your point that RIO somehow brings more people is a little diminished by the vast majority actually playing just for the reward chest, which they would do without RIO as well. And if you add to this that RIO works as an effective barrier for other people who for one reason or another are not beholden to its treadmill, you will see that indeed what I say is correct - without RIO there would be many more people playing M+. Because RIO removes a lot of players but adds only a few (if it adds anything at all, we just assumed here that people who run multiple keys with RIO would not do this without it, which is actually not the case).

You lost, sorry. You thought you will throw some nonsense like “RIO may actually bring more people” without thinking it through, but no, that fails.

Where has this been shown?

I can point you where I shown that RIO is BS, see up the thread.

No, it was YOU, who claimed RIO is what makes people play less. not me. RIO is what encourages people do higher keys and have somesort of competitive element - that’s what M+ loving people do and RIO helps with that.

You mix 2 things and think you have somehow figured out. no, you haven’t.

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I illustrated why RIO removes people from M+, see above. I understand you wanted to counter, but your counter failed.

I tried to highlight how much harsher the Armory is as well compared to raider io, that at least gives you score for trying higher keys that you don’t time.

It all falls on deaf ears. If Raider io was as harsh as our armory pages, they’d get into even less keys.

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The argument is that the armory has to be made private.

No deaf ears here, I am listening.

Lmao, I’ve joined one of those groups looking to get my +15 once during a necrotic week. I just ended up leaving because we wiped once or more on every pull because the tank didn’t care to reset necrotic and the dps was superlow. We had 30 deaths by the time we got to the first boss in freehold.

Like, I get it if people don’t care about the timer. I don’t care much for it either. But those people were not even trying to actually play around the affixes, just trying to ignore them, like wtf is that? I wouldn’t care if it would be like an hour or so in the dungeon but wiping on every damned pull due to necrotic? Like, seriously?

It was way round. I countered why you were wrong and you are now trying to salvage your face.

but it’s ok. Keep blaming RIO and not seeing big picture. You know more you keep blaming others instead self doing anything about it, more it is going to harm only yourself. People like you are the foundation of cancel culture instead of seeking solutions culture. Thus cannot really respect this “delete, cancel” whimpering I see constantly.

Cancel this, cancel that, remove this, remove that. But never seeing in the mirror that maybe just maybe it is fault in self.

More I read posts like this that blame the game and add-ons, less I would like to party up with people like you. And remember i do not even use RIO. Its your ‘blame others’ attitude. So when you die in fire you blame healers too?

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People are only trying to hide they don’t have experience.

It is funny how people want to hide game progress, but are ok with social media collecting their personal data like it was in one of those threads.

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I am not sure I understand the point. And?

You are assuming too much.

You want to hide armoury in hopes to get carried. Guess what people do want other team members actually pull their own weight.

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Can you articulate the point? Does this make RIO good somehow?

if my English is too bad.

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The fact that you think that M+ needs automatic queue, that you think blindly inviting people to groups just by ilvl is better than looking them up, that you think comparing a tank in League, OW etc. to a tank in M+ is resonable, that you think more people would push M+ withou rio…
…all of that tells me is that your arguments are not based on reality and facts, but assumptions, emotions and lack of experience.