Beast Mastery spec bonuses

For this specialization, in Season 4, I would like the bonuses (updated) from:

Für diese Spezialisierung wünsche ich mir in Saison 4 die (aktualisierten) Boni aus:

Para esta especialización y en la temporada 4, me gustarían los bonus (actualizados) de:

Pour cette spécialisation, dans la saison 4, je préfère les bonus (actualisés) issus de :

Per questa specializzazione, nella Stagione 4, vorrei i bonus (aggiornati) della:

  • Season 1 / Saison 1 / Temporada 1 / La saison 1 /Stagione 1
  • Season 2 / Saison 2 / Temporada 2 / La saison 2 /Stagione 2
  • Season 3 / Saison 3 / Temporada 3 / La saison 3 /Stagione 3
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Season 3 is my desire, season 3 or I retire


s3 is clearly superior

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vote for Season 3 is the only real option!


With unwavering optimism, I fervently wish for the magnanimous gift of my treasured set bonus.

I feel like I must have been the only one who liked the S1 alternating barbed shot kill command style lol
I do wonder what they will be ‘(updating)’ in the winner

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Pour ma part, je préfère celui de la saison 2. A la S3, malgré le choix d 'un burst, on doit sacrifier des moments de courroux pour aligner les cd .

Season III

S3 is best and works best with what the class/spec tuning is at the moment. Don’t fix what ain’t broken! Well, okay, push the beast cleave up a wee bit? :slight_smile:

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why? have you ran the numbers if its actually better than season 2?


why is the BM hunter discord saying season 2 is a bigger dps gain then?


Because they don’t know how to sim - or rather, how to account for discrepancy between the sim(bait) and actual play.

If you actually bothered to spreadsheet the data and look at your own logs from when S2 was current, you’d know that 2pc was worth ~2% on AoE and ~6% on single-target, overall, and the 4pc cooldown reduction was rather insignificant (approx. 2 extra casts in a 5 minute fight).

Compared to this, current S3 2pc is roughly worth ~3% on AoE and about ~5% on single target, while 4pc dire beast ability extension (beast cleave and kill command) is actually worth no less than ~7% in both AoE and single target scenarios.

S3 also has a crucial “but” baked into it.

S2 bonus is completely passive, so less competent hunters see it as competitive, particularly when looking at their own logs. Meanwhile S3 bonus actually scales with how well you can play, because amount of kill commands per minute varies immensely from person to person and depends on how you put your gear together. Better hunters get more kill commands out, and therefore get even higher numbers out, and adjust what to use when better, increasing their output even further.

To give you an actual number, in a recent PuG on Larodar, I’ve seen 65 kill command casts from the worst hunter, and 105 from the best. S2 bonus is completely flat and doesn’t account for how well you play at all. And it’s not like BM is just spamming one button, you have 2 cd-resetting or shortening abilities and a bunch of cooldowns which you shouldn’t neglect.

I think that the S2 supporters simply don’t like M+/AoE playstyle and resent the shift from “somewhat good single-target spec” to “overall good spec that shines on AoE”. That, or they ONLY raid. Sadly, we can’t have different season/tier bonus for raids and m+, so S3 trumps S2 as better overall.


S2 Strongest by far. Watch Azortharion


S2 with the newest talents felt the best and is going to be the strongest.
However only looking at fun s2 wins as they said all 3 sets will be tuned equal, so id value fun on s2 for more bestial wrath upptime


S2 far better, pls hunters save us from cringelords


Watch the video from Azortharion on YT if you want to know numbers and witch one is the “best”


What they said about hunters is true… We are really stupid AF.

Hunters out there, the reason why we perform better is not the tier set bonus (its nerfed by 30%), it is the talent rework. S2 tier set bonus is more dmg and smoother gameplay (it was changed to 2 sec CDR from 1).

Please do some researh atleast…


if possible will want 4pc of S2 and 4pc of S3

God damn the S3 votes make me super sad.


Honestly quite impressive how you can be so confident yet so wrong.