When the whole franchise is mired in anachronistic gear, unicorn firearms and nonsense combat logistics, a cyborg feminist in a trailer that has her die and then respawn twice is hardly the most egregious “unrealistic” thing that the games have done.
The whole “don’t like it don’t buy it” is sort of irrelevant here, no? You brought up “realism”, I’m saying it’s a stupid angle to take on it.
Realism? I think you read historical accuracy wrong… and oh… they could have added game modes for that…
In this context they’re essentially the same. People complained about the cyborg ninja scottish woman because “women didn’t fight in WW2”, but the same people didn’t have similar outrage over aforementioned Hellriegel appearing in the previous game despite the gun only existing as a prototype, and from my recollection, the info on it is so scarce that it’s not even entirely sure how the whole thing actually works.
A hook handed female commando is far more likely to have existed as a combat asset in WW2 than the prototype gun even leaving the building it was assembled in. If the historical accuracy angle which people like to harp on is so important, why is there such a discrepancy between the reaction when it comes to those 2 scenarios.
And… Added game modes for what? I’m confused
But they did and i also heard people asking why these stories weren’t told rather thenthe shoddy insert of an outlandish scottish cyborg ninja straight from a tumblrite’s fanfic… but ofcourse those questions were left out and unanswered to fit the narrative of gamers being (buzzword.script)…
Well I’ll be honest idk what a “tumblrite fanfic” looks like, do they like robot chicks or what?
Because again, people found that to be super outraged over, but all the other inaccuracies and anachronisms were just par the course, so out of ALL of them, why this one?
Because its a complete slap in the face to the men who actually fought in the war much like the mission with the girl and woman which was two men who literally changed the flow of ww2 but we are to announce it as women for fragile minded individuals while they turn in their grave?
It’s a game, not a f###ing memorial lmao.
Games have, unsurprisingly, customization, and because EA got burnt so badly with their other monetization schemes they have to put varied stuff for idiots to buy that isn’t map packs or loot boxes. Ergo, ninja in the trailer.
I don’t even know about what that other part about the “mission with the girl and woman” is, I was talking about the outrage over the cyborg ninja.
Considering that they insisted themselves the game was historically accurate would paint a picture that it would be well historically accurate… ![:bell:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/bell.png?v=6" ":bell:")
but it wasn’t, also I care? My grandfather fought in world war 2 was in the airforce regiment who was a back gunner in a plane and survived a crash over London.
So when I see someone make a historical accurate game for its story and throw in things that are not real comical completely slaps those men in the face who were to have their story told, though we cater to the weak minded that need to feel included while scolding the ones who actually were part of it and I’m Scottish and most Scottish men were thrown at front lines like Cannon fodder so ofc I care… Why make a mockery of Scottish solders while they made a comically stupid one while in real life we broke through the first defences against Hitler?
A game that was pitched as historically accurate, not realistic… because engine physics etc and then you receive a game with pink haired cyborgs
and blatent historical inaccuracies because muh politics… shall i sell you strawberry icecream that taste like bananad and when you complain respond with “LMAO this is icecream, not fruit”
How do you possibly derive “scolding” from having a female fighter with a hook arm in a trailer?
And why’s that historical inaccuracy so much worse than weird gizmos on your Thompson, which are, even moreso, inaccurate to the time period.
Back in WW2 you, as an infantryman, did not have the luxury of choosing between 20 different firearms and 60 attachments. You were given a rifle and some ammo. that’s just as disrespectful to the hardships of the soldiers, but yet people harp on the women.
It. makes. No. F@@@ing. Sense.
Because using in game multiplayer options to actual story based play based on history is a argument do you know how stupid you sound? Women were the nurses in WW2 apart from a few select polish snipers sorry but I know you want to feel all empowered but it didn’t go that way 
But that’s literally what the cyborg woman was?!?? A representative in a trailer made to depict the multiplayer. It even has a faux UI.
Actually russians had that luxury if they where lucky… also you are comparing overly unrealistic women with guns…?
And as mentioned before… where are the women that did partake in ww2…why not give them some shine instead of tumblorg600?
Overly unrealistic soldier, comparing that to an overly unrealistic firearm and firearm distribution. How is that so different?
Comparing an object with a blatent poltically inclined insert of something that doesn’t want to be objectified?
And yet againe why not give the actual ww2 women some praise?
So the assumed ‘political insert’ is the problem, not the lack of authenticity. I’m glad we cleared that up, that was my entire point, thanks for playing.
Obviously because a PINK haired CYBORG that has been confirmed to serve that function by sudderland himself while pitching the historical accuracy to the customers that complained about it… actually means yes, the obvious derailment of the promised authenticity is indeed the problem, the weapons and such however are to most not well known… most dont even know the thompson was just a modified tommy gun…
Well, if you read back to my very first comment, my whole angle was about the perceived “historical accuracy”, and how people who were super outraged over that woman specifically, are stupid, because there are so, SO many more examples of inaccuracies in the franchise that you could write a book about them, and you don’t even need to put in the stuff that players do to break the game. It was always solely about the political messaging, has NOTHING to do with authenticity or realism or whatever.
I’m not interested in whether the perceived political message is right or wrong, I just hate the angle of “historical accuracy”, but then only limited to that 1 trailer character.
Also, Thompson and “Tommy Gun” are one and the same, tommy gun is a nickname for the gun much like the chicago typewriter. What you think of as Thompson is the simplified military version, because WW2 was expensive, and Thompson was an overengineered, expensive piece of equipment.
edit: overengineered is a bit of a misnomer, it wasn’t overengineered per se, just designed in a bygone era when firearm design was less “mapped out”.
I disagree, as this entire political slew actually has been something of the past 8 years… look at the new direction dragon age is about to take and how the narrative of the devs doesnt fit the slightest with the serie, and most people handled it properly just not buy it and move on as i am about to do now… afterall this is the cesspit known general discussion.
Again, you say that you disagree, but then only go on about the political angle, so what am I supposed to make out of that, other than the motivation to hating the game/trailer is entirely political and has nothing to do with historical accuracy.
I think this was a fruitful, albeit offtopic discussion, I’m glad you at least half-conceded to my point. No cesspits here. I had fun.
Peace.