Nobody buys this sad excuse of an alibi.
I just looked up your profile and win rate. You have played around 1500 epic bgs, your win rate in all of them is between 90 and 100%.
You wanna tell me you contacted the Fados, Nephas, Cleptors, Larkuses and Rezals of this world and told them “gather your team, let’s fight in southshore at 9 PM?” So you have an equal and interesting match?
No. You just gathered your 25 commandos on discord, queue synced and got into epic bgs and played some casual scrubs in 90% of the cases who just wanted to play some chill rounds of epic bg and the occasional premade raid sprinkled in. For the majority of your opponents, that was a miserable experience.
Let’s assume there was an epic bg format where organized premade raid teams can battle each other on equal terms and receive decent rewards in the form of conquest and honor and maybe some exclusive cosmetic items, titles and mounts, would you play this bracket and leave normal epic bgs to small groups and solo players?
No, why should I? I advocate for proper EBG support similar to ranked. I can’t control the randomness of the queue, nor can I force an opponent team to stay and play.
They can form a premade too but no, they just want easy wins vs randoms.
They would use the same excuse as for the RBG argument in that it would take too much time and effort to get all the meta roles filled. They say they prefer a challenge but they really don’t. As Leeches said previously, it’s all about watching that Honor Level tick up.
Well since you say you enjoyed playing VS other premade raids the most, I assume you would try to deliberately queue into each other at least sometimes. The non premade-raid players you ploughed over 90% of the time clearly posed no challenge for you in these 1500 rounds.
Isn’t it boring to know you will win before the round even starts? What’s even the point of playing in the first place? I’ve tried premade raiding 7 years ago and was bored to tears (and a bit disgusted at myself) after just two rounds.
Ever since then, I view the practice of premade raiding as the epitome of poor sportsmanship. It is not that you gather all these people together in a coordinated team, but the fact that you almost never run into equally prepared opponents and obliterate them in a completely one-sided manner.
A separate bracket would be the best for everyone. I could totally imagine myself leading a premade raid or participating in one, under the condition that I get a worthy opponent team that has access to the same amount of coordination and communication. The reason why I am not in a premade raid community right now is because I don’t want to become like the other premade raid communities who have 90% winrates at the cost of poor random opponents who never stood a chance.
You really shouldn’t have to also cheat the system just to be on equal ground with an opponent team that cheats the system.
It isn’t exactly easy to win epic bgs when not in a premade raid, it is just a fight on equal terms. It sure is easier to win than the David VS Goliath - situation you force your victims into, but cmon, really?
If you are seriously at a point where you blame people for wanting a fair fight and not a rigged, unwinnable game, your perspective has become a bit out of touch compared to a regular player from too much premade raiding.
The truth seems to me to be the other way around. Premade raids want to slaughter randoms who can’t fight back.
I don’t bother, sometimes those who I play with do, but often the other team just leaves.
Isn’t it boring you know you’ll clear the raid? Why bother before it even starts?
I don’t. Mass PvP exists to have a lot of people work together towards a common goal through the means of objectives in combination with player versus player combat. If you want a bunch of pugs running around like headless chickens LFR exists.
It’s not my fault other people are bad and don’t improve. The whole point of PvP is to get better and win. Instead of getting better winning, they just come to the forums and complain they can’t win.
I wouldn’t call it cheating the system. Can make a big community of 100+ people and just have everyone queue up whenever they can play between certain times and you’ll have several groups of this same community in the same ebg almost all the time. Lots of people that know each other in ebgs will constantly meet each other even when they don’t intend to. I even occasionally run into community members in M+. When these people end up in the same EBG, they naturally will work together and win.
The problem isn’t people queuing up together indeed, the problem is that some people are just looking for PvP vs bad players and want free wins, and when they can’t get it because good people are queued up they blame premades for themselves being bad.
not my problem. Others will just have to git gud instead of complain about it.
Before pointing the finger towards other players claiming they are bad and have to git gud, I’d like to refresh your memory with your own words:
Your lack of reasonable arguments is embarassing. You are just spitting absolute nonsense with the clear and only purpose to win the argument. That’s all.
Got nothing to do with being beaten, it’s the manner in which it’s done. See those of us who prefer to play randoms as randoms, are the ones who actually don’t mind losing, that’s why we don’t go crying to our mates cos we lost a BG so they will now come and gang up and beat the nasty people in the BG. Some of the best games I’ve ever had have been losses but that’s because the games were evenly matched and it was an actual contest, where you actually had to use your brains to play, and not just spamming some aoe rotation on enemies that may as well not exist.
You would be very sad if you are beaten by a group that only knows how to spam AOE/pve rotation. And now even more, where no one even has the conquest set and you practically get the PvP equipment in a day, so you dont have the excuse of the Ilvl.
Probably an apt time to invite everyone to keep their words as free from bitterness as possible. (that way, they’ll taste better when you have to eat them)
I’d like to see that idea come to light, but doubt the ultra competitive nature of it would attract/hold enough players to justify.
Also doubt that would be enough to stop people premading in normal epics, if thats the/their goal.
Before i knew Premades was a thing, i joined a Communtiy. Thinking “This is badass! Tactics in EBG!”.
But then when i saw the messages, how they communicated with other Premade leaders to not collide with one another. How they left before it even started if they accidentally met another Premade.
I left a week after, did not join a single Premade. Also they remake their Communities as to “fend of lurkers”?
So yes, its not about Tactics or Organized EBGs.
Now these communities are actively harassing other players that is not in their community, which furthers our point: It is a parasite, killing the very thing they are doing.
“We are after farming Honor levels”, by all means! But remember, using premades devalues any statistic to near nothingness. Winrate means nothing, neither does Honor level anymore. All such “Feats of Strength” is ruined.
And “Its not banned addon, to queue synch”, they did ban such addons in Classic as it was a huge problem.
So that excuse is no longer valid either, you are controlling the queue’s with tools. To turn them heavily/extremely heavily in your favor. A system meant to be Random.
Another fun response with no value (Like 95% of all others) is:
“But just make your own premade lol”.
Fighting fire with fire, killing the very thing we want to enjoy. Riiight…
not my problem. Others will just have to git gud instead of complain about it.
