Blizzard why do you keep ignoring reports about FULL premades in epic bgs?

…and? idk what exactly you pointing out, that we play battlegrounds ?

i mean, those screenshots are proving OUR point not yours, look, in each bg, you were premade, with firzen, xeeraya and so on, and you were, doing what exactly, camping GY proving what ?
you are literally proving the post right. so, go ahead, post more.

Epic Random BGs is a game feature, it’s WARcraft so naturally, people are going to want to battle, it feels like the highlight of the game you bought, duh.

So if they make PvP such a horrible experience with premades, specially with people who just joined the game… they’re going to quit.

Heck, to me, in Dragonflight, PvP was the final nail in the coffin that made me quit in March, and I haven’t touched the game since until today to come back for the holidays.

And now that I’m back, seeing how terrible PvP is again? It makes me want to leave again.

Get rid of premades, I hope microsoft finally does something about it.

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This me. I joined with one Russian friend and ran into your 5 stack. You don’t get to make a lot of points when your team gets dominated in Kotmogu, yet I still managed to make 1/3 of my teams points alone and be second in damage on my off spec.
What other outcome did you expect when you 5 stack? That’s not impressive. If we had a 5 stack too of players of my caliber, we would have given you a run for your money. But like this, you just ploughed over our Russian casuals and the two of us couldn’t do much.

By all means, play small bgs like this. It is not forbidden unlike the queue syncing you pull in epic bgs for which I call you douchebags.

Besides, what you do, I can do better. I played a round a few months ago against members of your community.

h ttps://imgur.com/a/I0C2Exu (remove the space after h)

Pandora aka Xenoclea was in that round, Dex the boomie, Worzzag too, although he doesn’t appear on the scoreboard, possibly a few more of you whom I don’t recognize. You got 5 capped and lost 2-1500 in spite of playing as a 3-5 man group.
I was with Grom the warrior and Saevel the Paladin at the time, the others in my team were randoms.

So much for cherrypicked scoreboard results to show how much better you allegedly are. You guys are really nothing special. You stack the odds so heavily in your favor that losing becomes virtually impossible. I do it too, to a certain extent, but when I bring 1-2 friends with me into the rounds, the opponents still have a chance if they play well. 5 players too can be beaten, but when there are 25 players with the best gear, all sitting in discord and experienced, there is 0 chance for the opponents to defeat them.
You seem to have lost all sense of moderation or fairness. This is why your win rate in southshore is literally 100%, not because you are good at the game, you just abuse queue mechanics for unfair advantages. And this needs to end.

Yes, actually, a very good idea. Haven’t thought of that one yet. Might work. I still think mixing alliance and horde would be a more reliable solution to put an end to this for good.

Go ahead and prove it. Play the game like you are actually supposed to play it with friends - in max 5 man groups.

I would make it that people couldn’t queue up in a raid and remove all ways to bs your way around the system to reliably join with more than 5. Groups of up to 5 would be allowed.

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true, ive encoutnered some of the players who are hardflexing in this post and won 1v2 and 1v3, idk what those screenshot can even mean, they prove basically nothing, “oh wow you can camp gy in premade, and kill people in 5v1”

anything above 15-0 in bg never actually happens nowdays, unless its a graveyard camp, and then it means nothing because anyone can get 30-0 camping a gy, there is people afk respawning nonstop and you just pve rotation them to the death over and over…

This, they could make it so in every epic bg, there is just ONE group of 4-5 max allowed to join, probably 2 or 3 of two players in that group, and the rest being singles in the battleground.

The minute the algorithm picks up two groups of 4-5 attempting to join? It’ll put them in a different bg queue.

The goal is to eliminate an entire random bg made entirely of groups, spread them out.

idk how that could work with queues, like, how many 2-3man groups get left in the queue with that…? i still think Queue dodging penalty is the best

then again, i get SO MANY transfer aborted atm that id be super pissed at the 4-5 time it happens

Even 5 people joining together is too many imo, the only way it would work if they could implement it, would be solo queues. Taking you and your 4 best pals into a random is almost guaranteeing you the win, especially when most of the people doing it are geared to the teeth and specially selected classes. This is what makes it even more of an embarrassment when they feel the need to have a full premade, just to beat a bunch of low geared randoms and still have the nerve to call themselves gamers.

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Not every 5-man group is geared to the teeth in random BGs. Our guild often runs BGs with groups of up to 5, taking whoever wants to join regardless of their skill or item level. Trying to prevent that is stupid IMO. It fosters camaraderie.

Then the very least they need to do is massively minimize the iLvL disparity. There are loads that join as 5’s that are geared to the teeth. Those 5’s can usually win the games on their own, purely cos they can literally smash up the opposition with barely any effort.

Random Epic Battlegrounds are infested with 40 man premades. There is a reason why I wanna que Random Epic Battleground for a reason to have fun, chill or be unbothered If I wanna play RATED PVP and try hard I will do that. Read again R A N D OM Epic Battlegrounds, NOT Vs. 40 MAN PREMADE EPIC BATTLEGROUNDS. I can just imagine a new guy being like okay, this is not for me lol bye.

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NOT is a demonology warlock,you expect him to solo vs 40man? That spec aint that strong

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removing multi-group premades from epic BGs is easy to do, just make it so if you don’t accept the queue when it pops you get deserter debuff - they all leave and requeue until each group gets the queue to pop at the same time

Wish that I could post a screenshot of my most recent WG where Pandora and her minions were farming the Horde GY on the far west of the map with demos after capping all bases. Literally camped it for 15 mins until the timer ran out. What a great challenge that must be. Such gamesmanship. Keep driving players away - soon you’ll have no-one to play against.

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Trial for premading. I literally just snorted

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aint no way you guys are trialing people for random bgs.

this is something that only old internet gamer words can describe accurately

please record one of these trials so i can die of cringe

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Ofc we trial. We have requirements. It’s a Community built for people with the same mindset. Definitely not as cringe as you two organising your replies. Why did you move alliance btw? There are way more premades on the Horde side, and since this is the only thing you talk about, I’m wondering if your choice was wise.

gnomes are cool

Because I like thematical races. And my main (Moonkin) always looks fabulous in my gold challenge mode gear when Night Elf. And with the new moonkin forms we’re getting who could say no to the full fantasy of night elf druid.

was about to smoke you yesterday in wpvp whjen i saw u, shame on you for going alliance