did you read the tradechat at the start of the xpac, where boosting wasnt a thing, because the gear for the high end players wasnt there? there was no trading at all, just chatting and “anal-[spell]” spam
Trade chat spam finally being gone is great, but it has very little influence on the amount of boosts.
The vast majority of boosts were bought from the discord channels of the boosting communities, not from replying to some trade channel spam.
Now they will simply visit the discord pages of guilds to find boosts.
I see no problem with this. More engaging than nova spam.
there was no trading at all, just chatting and “anal-[spell]” spam
Which is essentially what trade chat had been for a long time before the boost spam appeared. Trade chat hasnt been used for trade for a long time. And ironically everyone chatting in there is subject to getting silenced if one wants to enforce the rules.
little influence on the amount of boosts.
That might be ok, because the problem might not be the boosts, but possible sweatshops and other business operations existing outside the game who possibly rob boosters of profits on top.
Sadge aids spammer noises.
I just turned back the trade chat. Oh man, a dream came true, the aids spammers are gone.
Its… beautiful.
Which is essentially what trade chat had been for a long time before the boost spam appeared. Trade chat hasnt been used for trade for a long time. And ironically everyone chatting in there is subject to getting silenced if one wants to enforce the rules.
I’d argue against this.
Trade chat was usually used as a means to sell items in a faster than AH manner, especially items that are frequently used by players such as potions and flasks.
Usually players that want a very quick cash would post WTS - X item , cheaper than AH or set a certain price.
Otherwise items at negotiable prices were always being posted, so you’d see something like wts - X item - Pst me.
The whole memeing and political / etc things that happened in trade chat were mostly 2 am things, as trade chat always moved fast, it probably moved at 1/10 the speed chat with boosting spammers moved or some where around that, it was fast but it was comprehensible, you could read what the seller wanted before the line moved.
This is also why the memeing only happened late at night / early in the morning, because trade chat would be slow enough for posts to last long enough to attract attention.
Trade chat also was used for various other reasons, like guild advertisements, naming and shaming cheaters/ninja looters / scammers, and from within that section the boosting advertisements were born.
People often forget that the AH back then wasn’t like the one we have currently, and face to face trade was pretty common and usually the go to method for many people.
Its… beautiful.
We had that at the start as well. They will be back however.
I’d argue against this.
And you would lose. Trading did happen there yes. However the vast majority of it was just people chatting given it span across all cities.
Trade chat also was used for various other reasons, like guild advertisements, naming and shaming cheaters/ninja looters / scammers
All of which is a bannable/silenceable offense
That is your take and thats fine. However its bound to happen as it happened often enough already prior to the rise of boosting communities. The removal of master loot is something that arose from a similar issue.
Yes that is my take on it, there has to be a level of personal responsibility when it comes to this.
GOODBYE SYLVANSNOVADAWNSELLINGFORREALCASHNOTGOLDLIKEWEPRETEND.
Good riddance.
dirge… or chuck norris … seen it all…
wonder what will be next now nova is gone
Whaaat, blizzard taking a step in the right direction, what is this madness
and another question: it is stated that escrow are forbidden. does that relate only to boosting communites or also to trades for rare goods like old tcg, blizzcon stuff etc that you need to trust someone, since its often not an item traded but a code and regualry exceeds the goldcap of 10m. that would be a real bummer if so
i would imagine it is mostly aimed towards boosting and RM trade
but would not know for sure
and here we go again…no clear, what they are gonna enforce. i would really prefered if it were a trade chat only restriction
guess you could try and sell one and see if u get banned or not
Happy days everyone! I cant see how this has any negative effect really? They may leave and not play no more but they were never playing with us anyway. They were communites of uber geared making real coins.
So, bye!
I’ve been raiding for a while so not caught up with this thread, but for those concerned about the free boost and help communities such as Freebird will not be affected.
‘This change does not restrict individuals or guilds from using the in-game chat tools (trade chat) to buy or in-game items or activities for in-game currency’
followed by
‘If you are not providing a service that requires gold to be paid, then you have nothing to worry about’
is it just me or is that really misleading and contradictory ?
clarification on what counts and what doesn’t would be appreciated.
Example:
say Guild A makes a group to run a boost and advertises it on the trade channel for in-game gold…
and a person outside the guild takes the purchase
is that breaking the terms?
i mainly ask because it seems like a lot of people on this forums are reading “activities” as “boosts”