No thanks. When I loot, I feel good Looting. In legion/BFA, Looting felt bad because of no proc.
Casuals missing their random +50ilvl from world quests. Get good before you complain about system that is broken.
I don’t know what makes you think anything has changed. TF was bad. I thought so when it was first mentioned, I thought so when it was removed. And I still think so.
Yeah, not gonna “swallow that pride”. I still stand behind calling for that 100%.
Many things changed.Many " there is no loot " threads spawned in past few days.
F’ck titanforging, running lfr raids only to hope u might get an upgrade? That’s what you want to get back to, mandatory grinds of brain dead content just so you can have an easier time doing content that actually might provide a little bit of challenge?
People are still used to being showered with loot by the more recent expansions.
Its hardly surprising. Doesn’t mean those other systems were better.
Its RNG, its always random progression in WoW
HELL NO! No titanforging, please.
I say no to titan/warforging and no to farting at a few mobs in open world and getting gear that is better on par with dungeon gear. If I could get retail gameplay and all the extra things to do combined with vanilla gear progression I’d be happy.
No this is awful.
Titanforging was an awful system and should remain in the trashcan, where it belongs.
I will be short.Because of titanforging i hated gear in an RPG! and i did not care about it.So yes please dont bring back titanforging.
I see the drawback in SL from tf and people being showered in gear,they/we where conditioned too long with those systems.
I hated TF/WF, good riddance.
i would agree, TF/WF should not return.
for me im confused why blizz have gone on this mad crazy gearing adventure, when, imho, the token system was fine.
Run dungeons/raids, dont get loot for a while? Buy the gear with the tokens you earned. Feels like a Blizz keep trying to reinvent the wheel to me with these new systems every xpac imho.
Now there is no tf, and people get 1 item from every 5-6th run if they are lucky.
This is much-much better probably.
Also i just run a random hc for a trinket which i need for m+. Guess what… from 4 bosses i got 0 loot, while someone else got 3 loot (alongside the trinket i wanted).
How this is fair and good? Its a joke.
It is not about fair but how good it will be in the long run,gear having again meaning.
This fast food,rush rush mentality is awful.
I don’t understand the need for titanforging. It doesn’t make loot exciting, it’s the other way around: if you don’t get titanforging, you’re going to be disappointed. That is really bad design.
The main pushers who want titanforging from what I’ve seen are people who want better gear for the same effort (lazy people). Catering to those people is what made looting miserable for so many expansions.
People still rushing. Only change that they gutted the loot drop. So they need spend avg 5 times more.
Bring back WF then… XD
Run dungeons/raids, dont get loot for a while? Buy the gear with the tokens you earned. Feels like a Blizz keep trying to reinvent the wheel to me with these new systems every xpac imho.
We do not get tokens. So thats ouht of the question.