Hi!
Fresh is fun, but Im afraid it will die soon… Due to the lack of GDKP.
GDKP is the end game content for all the players who are quick at leveling and gearing char up. GDKP is making raiding relevant for all player through out the expansion. The people who dont like GDKP can just join normal runs and host normal runs, but make it a choice for the player to decide if they wanna go have fun in GDKP and maybe secure a item on their main they have been struggling with but they saved a lot of gold.
I never understood where this GDKP = RMT thing people have going comes from. There’s gold buying all over fresh atm, the bots have left era for the most part, and GDKP is still thriving. I would bet there are as many gold buyers per player on non-GDKP realms as there are on realms where it is allowed.
The problem with GDKPs is that they destroy the economy faster than bots. Right now you only need gold for consumes, mounts and some epic boes, and that’s it. If GDKPs were enabled more people would buy gold creating a faster inflation because they need gold to outbid people in GDKPs to get items.
You are still implying that more people buy gold where GDKP is allowed. I stand by my statement, there are probably an equal amount of people buying gold on non-GDKP realms for consumables, boes, mounts etc.
I see you edited your post to add guilds here. I raid with my SR guild on era and will keep on doing that even when there’s GDKP around. We’ve just been progressing into naxx
When GDKPs are enabled more people buy gold because you need more gold, it’s pure logic. You need gold to outbid people in raids for the loot + the gold you need for consumes, boes and mounts.
I think we can agree to disagree on this matter. I might be naive and blue eyed, but to me the argument that GDKP empowers RMT looks a bit like a strawman. If there’s not gear to buy gold for directly, people will buy it for consumes etc. which, in a non-GDKP setting, is harder to farm due to less means of getting gold in the first place. When I got my first 60 I did not buy gold to be a “buyer”, I went to SR raids and earned my gear. Just like the vast majority of players. That, in turn, allowed me to earn the gold which I could have used to be a “buyer” on an alt (which I did not since I enjoy SR more).
I dont agree with you guys. For me its fun to farm gold in GDKPs on my alt. If you have some gold and you buy items here and there and get the gold from the pot you can have fun with it without buying gold.
For me it just creates more content in the game, and nobody forced any of you to join a GDKP. I just cant see why you have to exclude it totally.
GDKP does not destroy the economy faster than bots. The only thing destroying the economy is bots.
In an environment where RMT is prolific and endemic (such as Classic wow), GDKP is a way in which gold is redistributed throughout the economy instead of being largely concentrated amongst gold buyers and/or bots.
For example, on fresh where GDKP etc is not permitted but gold buying is rampant, the gold is largely focused into those whom buy and those whom possess what the rmt’er is buying using gold. This is usually going to be trade goods to level progressions (usually also listed by the bots), into boosts (usually gold is sold back to gold sites to sell on) or is spent on high end gear and BoE. This introduces large amounts of gold into the economy and inflates prices but the amount of gold the average player sees does not increase drastically unless he is also partaking in gathering or RMT adjacent practices (boosting).
By contrast on a GDKP server, the players whom are playing for the gold obtain their gold for their performance and will often then use this to fund further raid progression via flasks and AH use and from distributing funds to lower level characters to enable them to level up etc.
On a macro scale this is redistributing gold from say 10% of the population who does RMT to a further 50% who raid. This means that inflation is more rampant but also more uniform which leads to a largely healthier (albeit still inflated economy ).
For example a low level player can farm light feathers in a GDKP server where inflation is out of control and perhaps sell these for 50s-1g a feather. This is only possible because GDKP means that the level 60s buy and large all have access to a huge gold supply which trickles down via the AH.
On a non GDKP server this is less likely to be the case due to less distributed gold across the server.
Your tldr is on a gdkp server you can sell your things for more gold, to then buy things for more gold. E.g. gdkp raises prices because more people are buying gold, and all it effectively does is make items unobtainable for those who don’t either farm their asses off or buy gold.
Only blizzard has the data to prove or disprove that. GDKP experience tends to be whales getting carried to loot. It is a win-win. Blizzard gets gold through subs (bots), whales get their well deserved gear and the people carrying get their gold (thanks to bots & whales), this way people don’t have to do manual labour like gold farm in a post industrial (bots) world of warcraft.
Is GDKP not just a player made pay to win scheme?
Ive never taken part in a GDKP raid…honestly i had to google GDKP but from what i understand its essentially a raid for rich people as the poor folk couldnt afford to bid on items. No thanks.
If you are for GDKP you are obviously a Tory.
Id rather not have farm gold any more than is required. And i aint going to buy it from some sleezy black market network. Grow up and play the game properly