Bring the raid loot system to M+ to prevent ninja looting

There is always drama with Master/Group loot always. With Personal group I know what is mine is mine and if I want to share it is up to me.

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Because it’s nice? Because they helped you to do complete the dungeon in the first place? If you don’t need it, you owe it to them to offer them that loot… and if an item drops that somebody else needs just as much as you, both should be allowed to roll for it fairly.

Different societies have different approach towards things and activities.

Why would you expect someone to give you loot over their friend? I’ve did this and also had this happen to me. A complete stranger expecting someone to give upgrades to a random they won’t play with again over their friend they are always doing keys with, Of course they will give to their friend.

LOL. Back in WotlK there were only 2 conversations: EZ epix for the casuals and ninja looters…

Sounds as if you dont remember the expansion correctly.

It was a figure of speach. GL wont get us nowhere either.

Dont change a working system.

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That’s the beauty of pl though - everyone already rolled fairly. It just happens in the background instead of clicking a dice. There’s nothing more fair than that.

It’s not the groups loot. It’s not the loot of the person who “needs” it most. We rolled fairly on it, and the winner can do whatever they please with their item.

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The current LFR system is the best

Personal loot is the best, rolling was just brought back to cater to those who longed for the old boring hassle, it’s that simple.

If you want loot someone else gets, you better be kind and ask nicely and you may actually get what you want eventually. Don’t expect anything and you are more likely to be positively surprised.

You never had issues with Nina looting or master loot? Liar

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No you do not hence why its PL in first place.

Yeah, but it shouldn’t be pl, because pl made people get the wrong idea in the first place. Content playing in a group isn’t supposed to give loot to a single person, we all work together to get that loot, so everybody has a right to it, now we have griefers who delight in keeping stuff that accidentially (decided by silly RND) dropped into their pockets to themselves instead of offering it to the rest of the group or even worse, ppl are just too lazy to wait a sec at the end of the dungeon, just because the devs took the tool away for others to announce their need with the simply click on the right button.

Your “moral superiority” is hilarious. Practicality reigns supreme. Computers work on systems with logic. Not on the power of philosophy.

What do you propose? For each dungeon run to give 5 items? To change to GL so that the sea of turds have yet another reason to ruin our keys by needing for stuff they don’t need?

Please indulge me. Because there is one thing you cant change with any system: Idiots on the internet. The only way to change that is to invent a technology to e-mail punches in the face.

Until then… PL please.

Raid loot sucking is not a reason to screw over M+ loot.

Ask for a god damn fix for raid loot instead.

I already rolled for it fairly and won.
If i drive past a homeless person should i offer to roll them for my house?

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They are already doing that with PL, why don’t you get that? GL would only make ppl’s lives easier, because those with some common sense can trade their loot more easily and actually pass on rolls instead of having to advertise the stuff they don’t want first… and that in turn would make more ppl who are now just too lazy to offer their stuff pass, too. That’s why GL was so much better.

Not even a nearly adequat comparison. Try again and I might consider an honest answer. You might want to reread my earlier post.

that’s what I’ve said, I responded to person that claims raid rolling would give him more loot somehow, in reality he would see it 10x less because everyone would need it for golds in vendor

what dont you get that by personal loot you have GUARANTEED chance to get item 40% of loot each run, with need/greed system you’d have 20% chance for each item to win a roll, also with personal loot If people dont need item they will give you it 90% of time if you ask them

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YOU don’t get how PL works. Objectively. Not metaphorically.

Many others already explained that. So il refrain from doing it again.

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i guess you have some how blanked out 100s of posts asking for PL back for raids as so much ninjaing going on in raids and people selling items.

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Funny think is I actually gave him a link to one. So he can see the absolute hilarious 300 comments of tears… :smiley:

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You don’t owe anyone anything. Stop acting like random people owe other random people anything in a game.