But then we return to the previous question. Difficulty in general. You won’t feel the desperate need for gear if you are sure you can progress farther in the end-game. The game difficulty spikes could be adjusted to it?
What in the bluhe hell has mythic raiding to do with this whole subject?
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So if we lower the “must have this ilevel to meet a dps check” at play higher-level content then it can also reduce the desperation to get gear upgrades?
Unless. Like I said. You want to get something in the m+ chest simply for the sake of “getting something there”?
Then:
I replied to that. If you reduce differences between individual M+ / raid levels, yes, that will help. Because even though people will have less gear, they will be able to progress +2 levels where previously they’d progress +1 due to your decreases and that will correspondingly increase the ilvl of new gear.
But they aren’t going to do that, because their whole idea with these changes is to reduce speed. (And if they were to do that, it’d be simpler to just return to the old drop chances.)
But you act like mythic raiding is the only thing you get out of there?.
You state that. Not mellinora.
People like me would like to gear up for mythic +10 for instance or normall raids.
Once again, Soft caop 184.
LFR should of been 195
Norm should of been 210 Heroic 225 and mythic 240.
Thats how it should of been.
Rn, You do LFR, After softcap, you get no progress. You get +3 ilvl weapin garanteed but you’re happy if you get better sub stats. Not main stat cause thats the same. It doenst feel progressive.
I guess you never read your own comments. 
anybody 
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Speak for yourself buddy, the majority of people who rely on gearing via M+ would like to have a firm word with you, its far from fair that M+ is being treated like trash compared to PVP / Raid.
Bruh you have awful tmog 
M+ drops become tedious when you farm for specific item. I had to run mists 16 times before I got caster trinket. I was so relieved when I got it I told other guys in the group to roll for a free month of game time. Oh well we have to get used to that.
I got 300k gold. I dont even want to spend that ggold to buy a token. XD
Okay, to change the conversation into one that is more productive rather than a back and forth.
What would each of the people unhappy with the current situation suggest as a remedy?
Be specific. Not just “increase loot” explain how.
I made a lot of gold at the start of expansion and now I’m boosting so yeah giving away 160k wasnt an issue. I was glad I can do other dungeons
Oh dear lord, you just opened a can of worms.
READY! STEADY! FIIIIGHT!
Im not looking for a fight I’m looking to hear constructive suggestions that take into account the game as a whole and to see whether people are suggesting stuff that would be sensible for the game as a whole, or just buff their preference and screw everyone else (a term often thrown around here as a defence when referring to oneself as casual)
For example, if one proposes higher m+ drops to make a week of m+ net average of 3-4 items a week, I would like to see a proposal for an addition to give PvP players a want to earn similar gear amounts given we’re capped at 1.5 pieces a week. And “it’s a side game” is not an answer.
If one can do such, im all ears
I’m not saying you are… but this is SPART… the wow forum 
What specifics are you looking?
Correlate BFA loot system with this and solved. Heroic and mythic raiders still have theyr gear to ‘brag’ (just for the lack of a better word ) while our progression of us casual people isnt stopped because of loot, what it currently is costing us motivation to play end game stuff which why we buy expansions. And the last time I checked, Lower mythics, LFR, and all that stuff is end game
Within the last 10 posts of yours so I suggest you read it.
Newgens collectively cry on forums until they get what they want, which always is easier content. In my generation people who were bad at vanilla-tbc-wotlk quit the game without crying (realising they are bad as others have no issue) and just play a different game and move on with their life. But this new generations that lives on Reddit, 4chan and other sites every day typing to people they don’t even know, just to look for other weirdos that have the same opinion, they are the ones that plan collective spam on forums until Blizzard actually changes it. Blizzard still has no clue that 99,9 percent of the people are playing the game and never are on any forum, because they like the game. Blizzard only sees the 0,1 percent of the extremely stupid people (kids mostly) as they are the only ones using forums. If they are bad or fail, instead of learning from mistakes or learning their class (most of em kids copy guides), they just alt-tab and go cry. How toxic is their attitude and personality? They’ll have a hard time IRL.
Did you write a wall of text to not realise blizzard uses internal data to fix certain stuff?
did you reply 2 seconds after me pressing “Reply”. Nice, next time read first kiddo.
I stopped reading when you turned your post in a rant about people complaining.
You must feel good beingg so ‘constructive’ calling people names an d all that… Ands the best is “My generation”… couldnt be more false bud, you just had difference means to register to the offical wow forum XD
Meanwhile, I bet you didnt even read the majority of the topic.