Ur trolling lost the interest when u called my warri out. I do t even play him atm. Forum just doesnt show my newer monk.
I think many people are simply tired of RM gameplay.
Typically, it is 2 vs 1 with extremely high damage cooldowns while you are unable to move.
We can remove stealth and invisibility and shift the damage evenly among more spells and then all Rogue and Mage players can go find new synergies and everyone will be happy.
Well , that kinda is a limited pov from people who generally dont play RM , I personally dont like playing RM in 3s as much as 2s but I have never had an issue playing into rogue mage regardless of if itās on one of my rogues or my warlock. If anything and I admit Iām bias due to the classes I play I dislike playing into warrior/shaman (and Iām sure plenty of warlock mains feel the same and know exactly why) but itās a regular comp most expansions at somepoint in some form and Iāve just learned to get over it warriors deserve some good comps too just like everyone else
Yeyeye, letās make DH-BM-Prot a T1 comp and see how you feel about it.
You have 2100 max exp on arena on a Warrior, not the one you are posting on. whether you play it or not, youāre a 2100 player (peak rating) telling other people they are delusional.
Tell me whats wrong with what I just said.
Why destroy Rogue because people canāt figure out how to disrupt setups?
Iāve actually said classes and not specs. But I see that reading is difficultā¦
Destroy? Or perhaps re-work?
Just saying that is has been X years, and maybe it is time to remove the advantage of opening from stealth and being permanently hidden from other players.
This would also apply to Druids, Hunters and Mages.
This will open up new opportunities. Vanish could still be there, perhaps with multiple charges and a shorter (5 seconds?) duration.
All talent rows that relate to stealth abilities would be free to affect something else.
DH only has 1 DPS spec though. So the spec IS the class.
So you want to turn Rogue into a Leatherwaring Warrior then? the entire point of a Rogue, or Sub anyway is its suppose to be hit and run and Ambush, it wouldnāt really be able to accomplish that without stealth.
Hereās any idea, learn to play vs Rogue Mage instead of crying about it. Many many high rated and decently rated players can do it. Why canāt you?
Yes, destroy. You want to turn what is quite possibly the most skill intensive spec/class (with the only challenger remaning really being Feral) in WoW into yet another mongoloid melee zugzug-er.
To all the other Mage/Rogue haters out there: You need to learn that setup based comps with a timer are far more skillbased than any dampening āplay to liveā comp.
Given that a setup comp and a dampening comp have the same amount of tools with even power the dampening comp will win by default in the case of a stalemate. The setup comp therefore needs to outplay the dampening comp to win.
In some iterations of RMx the preconditions of the statement above have not been true, e.g. Druids being able to drink on every setup, HPala never struggling on mana ever with the result being that the RMx suddenly turned into a dampener comp as well.
But in this current meta, and especially this meta, where melees are so extremely overwhelming with their defensive utility (anti-CC, disarms, off-heals etc) and RMP going OOM incredibly fast, the preconditions are also false as the dampening comps have far more and powerful tools than RMx, and lasts way longer.
Anyone complaining about RMx (or other setup comps) right now just wants to turn WoW PvP into even more of a boring PvE clown fest.
Unlike many of the other trash comps one can face out there generally RMx is actually very fun to play against, itās not just PvE mongoloiding with almost zero outskilling to be done like almost everything else these days.
When you get better at the game you, the reader, will learn this as well.
I didnāt say anything about being unable to win against them. But they are annoying, and I just want the meta to change because they have been the ultimate 2 dps team forever. Enough is enough.
I think you just need to climb down of your high horse for a moment. There is nothing skill-intensive about hiding behind a pillar until you can stealth.
and yet at high ratings, blizzcon players are still dying every day to wheelchairman randomly swapping to them mid GCD and killing them before they can even press their defensives
Soā¦ because they are annoying you want them changed? Mate they are not the meta comp right now by the way, its a good comp but it has alot of trouble into any Shaman or Warrior comps currently. I think the meta comp right now is Ele,FireMage,Hpally.
Dh is one exception tbh. A problem with this game is that the gap between easy and difficult specs is too huge imo.
What exactly is so toxic about it? and why is it so much more toxic than every other setup based comp.
RMX Canāt 1 shot you every go btw, donāt know if you realise that, their dmg has CDās too you know.
So you are saying that because the comp takes coordination and patience (your words) to beat and people at lower lvls donāt have that it should be nerfed? or made unviable because people are lacking these skills at lower levels of arena?
Yes, itās very fun to play against a comp that does nothing but run until they force you into a 20+ second chain of unavoidable CC that ārequires skill to set upā when in reality itās incredibly easy to do.
Also fun to watch them have to make like 12 mistakes in a row before they can actually die due to having multiple ways of force resetting fights and incredibly powerful self healing / mobility / immunities, all while having a potentially guaranteed kill every 25 seconds unless you and your team coordinate your defensives PERFECTLY - regardless of how bad the RMx isā¦
ā¦ assuming your comp even has enough defensives required. Not everyone runs an arms warrior, for example. Plenty of comps that can win the āPvE gamesā since mistakes get punished there, but just lose to RMx because you lack the utility to deal with the guaranteed CC chain every 25 seconds.
Certainly enjoyable to play against!
So what I read isā¦ cry babys dont know how to play against RMx but pretend they do - and cry on here its op even though- they preach lots of proof they have no idea how to play against RMx , in short- they would rather cry for changes that would ruin lots of peoples characters just because
1- they dont like stealth classes, despite the fact rogueās most iconic ability is ambush and stealth. Just wow, I have no words for how stupid one person could actually be. Please leave before you embarrass your self more , youād be doing your self a favour for how stupid you are making your self look
2- overly stressing the point of how much CC . While RMx isnāt the only comp that plays off cross CC and ignoring that one of the classes has next to no reliable damage mitigation other than very large cooldowns and can be killed in seconds if caught, I mean rogues are made of paper and they SHOULD be , the idea of a cheap tricks fighter is part of the entire class fantasy.
3, you think because you dislike it everyone should. Yet I enjoyed playing into RMx when I mained warlock because the games were fun thatās how I ended up playing a rogue at all. My view was completely different to your view and I have been on the receiving end of it plenty of times, my dislikes were things like WoD turbo or comps that just sat on healers/casters 24/7 and basically just tried to win on mana and dps meters most of the game , because to me a melee cleave that can effort to glue to one target and has enough tools to just ignore incoming pressure long enough to win on pve rotation is the definition of ābad pvpā However it has its place I begrudgingly accept I hate it
If someone is 2.4 as mage it is equal to 1.8 since it requires no skills and brain.
Yes, we are. I hate especially mages, rogues come second.