And what are you winning, exactly?
Just because you personally canât connect the dots doesnt mean its not like that.
People have elaborated on the subject enough to see they raise real concerns. I mean we have a running model of it in RETAIL - just look whats happening there and how it affected the game and gameplay.
Except people expected TBCC to be without these âconveniencesâ as well.
Oh, how we were lied to by Blizzard on that part.
What is the difference of a WoW Token in TBC and buying gold from chinese?
I asked the poster to explain it, which hasnât happened.
I donât see any real difference between retail and TBC- there are huge numbers of boosts around in both, Horde is the dominant side by a huge margin, really whatâs the difference?
Apart from a pair of rose tinted glasses from those that may or may not have played in the original, I havenât seen anyone actually explain how it will kill TBC. It might lessen their âenjoymentâ of their âpureâ experience but I suspect the majority donât actually feel like that- probably because a lot of the players on TBC are what the âpuristsâ call retail tourists âpollutingâ some ideal they have in their minds.
These same âpuristsâ are the ones who cried so hard for HvH which clearly doesnât belong in their pure version- so I guess all the purists are quitting over that too? No?
In this day and age subbing for more than 2 months at a time is not worth it seeing how publishers and lead designers are acting with any type of software.
Adding the deluxe mount was already a bad line to cross and the moment a WOW token appears in the TBC store that would be the end of WOW for me. With so much negative publicity atm, a response from blizzard on this would be very welcome.
WoW token is P2W.
58 boost is also P2W and has no place in classic TBC.
It is, itâs buying character power.
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Pay to win, boosting to 58 with crap gear sure isnt winning.
Itâs buying character power, itâs that simple. Thatâs the definition of P2W.
P2W is more like: buying something which is impossible or very hard to get by playing the game. This is not.
Nope, P2W is literally buying character power. Level boosts are character power, crafted gear is character power, anything that effects your character in a possitive way is character power. No exceptions. You can excuse it however you want, it doesnât change the fact that lvl 58 boost is p2w.
Okidoki, then it is p2w. I just think of it as a 25 euro shortcut to get crap gear, proffs on 0 so you still have to grind it. All in all a big mistake if you buy it.
too many bots/gold sellers/service sellersâŚ
this game now looks like a chinese farmer dream!
And Blizzard will steal the benefit by selling shop tokens.
pay2win is a concept where you literally donât put any effort in âgame-playâ YET you get your character maxed with end game gear by finding a way to buy that. âin wow atm anyone can buy leveling & buy best gear with $$$â itâs P2w game.
Edit: if blizzard decided to sell gold/raid items/arena items in Shop? that wonât change anything because there are already tons of people buying gold from 3rd party service & buying arena boosts/raid items in TBCC.
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If it was 0 proffit nobody would buy it.
Itâs not p2w, itâs pay to catch up to below the start of Outlands. Youâre not winning anything with it. Youâre skipping a grind to 58 so that you can play TBC with one toon.
A boost to 70 with BiS gear would be P2W.
Rather have a blue response to 6 months ban instead of 3 day ban gold buyers.
And with that defintion P2W is completly useless seeing as no company would ever sell that if they want to retain anyone for more than a few weeks, try again.
And now for something im sure you have asked about as well, how the token is P2W seeing as gold is a fairly stable currency that you do need for difrent things people offer stuff like boosts and gdkp runs where gold is exhanged for services and or gear, with the token in the game there is a sanctioned by blizzard way to buy gear (even if it is slightly hidden) for real money so even with your definition the token is P2W even though you have to go through a few extra steps to get for example the mind blade or what ever pieces is bis for the person who buys the gear.
Boosting a character from level 1 to level 58 is a P2W, because itâs blatant selling of character power, regardless that there are 12 more levels till max. The concept is the same. The excuse of âuh, no you still have to level and reach max level and grind items and the starting gear is trash and uhm⌠Itâs not P2Wâ, doesnât make it any less P2W. Gaining character power in exchange for mony is the definition of P2W.
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Thats not true of course.
It is clearly a P2W. If you dont like grind just dont play the game, noone forces anyone to play it. Just like Vanilla classic - its also a grind and there were no boosts to byu. More then this - it completely ruined the faction balance, the vitality of the servers and caused a domino effect that is now Blizzard trying to âfixâ with same faction BGs, BG premades restrictions, rewards for alliance for playing BGs and other silly retail-like âsolutionsâ.
Summarizing it - boosts are the biggest mistake that Blizzard made and it damaged the classic quite hugely. It completely destroyed the passion that made Vanilla classic such a big success, by destroying the #nochanges thoughts.
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