I vote that they conclude the story of WoW Retail in this (BFA) or the next expansion and let the retail WoW die (epically).
And too bad if people will whine “oh noes my char iz gone 4ever!”… Yeah, boohoo, you will also die IRL too, like everyone else, that is life.
And after that Bliz should continue the story in a singleplayer campain of say Warcraft4 or some sort of singleplayer RPG (highly inspired by the old BioWare games).
Because let’s face it… all this: “yay, we defeated the evil …until the next evil comes” is just getting a bit pathetic.
We need some serious story conclusions like the old StarCraft or Diablo2.
It’s a good idea. Usually the mantra is “vote with your money”, and I think a great many Classic players would vote against Retail continuing any further, if they were able to.
Blizzard have tools to monitor traffic and activity.
Those alone tell them which of their games are the most played (consistently). If you want to make a point of “I’m not playing BfA because (insert reasons)” then don’t play BfA - your activities will reflect that. You have a sub and an account that is only playing classic.
If say (making up numbers for the sake of example) 60% of the overall WoW activity is spent on classic alone, that tells Blizzard that classic is the more popular product - or the other way around.
How is it “outside the box”? It makes no sense. Even if the subscriptions were separate the money goes to the same pool and company. Money earned via classic doesnt go exclusively to Classic wow development and support. That isnt how any publically traded company works.
On top of that, your activity and playtime can already be seen by Blizzard. Just dont play BFA and they will know.
Complete nonsense. If thats thinking outside the box, the box must be the size of an ant or something.
I’m living in a different “bubble” than you are, the population on Pyrewood Village Horde side feels like a low pop realm. Rather than having to pay 2 different subs for current and classic wow, i would like to have them open paid server migrations or they should have opened free migrations towards pve realms from pvp realms, not everyone on pvp realms are happy with their choices.
Changes Blizz made at some point around wotlk -> MOP, made large group outdoor activity worse.
Large scale PvP at SS/TM could happen and wasn’t a 30sec freeze fest that current medium sized outdoor PvP shows today.
How do you think we downed world dragons whilst fighting off opposing raids, there would constantly be 120+ players contesting these. It was more of a framerate hit than a frozen -> catch up thing.
How is our fault that Blizzard made a bad business decision for us to have a shared sub (retail+classic)? Instead of doing seperate subs. So that people who actually play both games and have money for both subs could have contributed economically to the proper maintenance and development of servers. That way we could have stable, functioning servers without embarrassing situations like these:
Hell, they could even have charged us money for the WoW Classic (the initial game itself and even Collector’s Editions) but no, they just decided to treat it like some silly, unserious sub-project, and the result of that is crap like “world server is down” again and again… (just sift through the topics i posted and you will have an idea).
And you seem to be 1) defending their incompetence and 2). treating us who are fed up with putting up with that like morons.
You’re a straight up moron if you think the joint sub fee for Classic and BFA is a bad business decision. A bad business decision would be separating them. For multiple reasons but mostly the shared ecosystem being a source of brand new players from retail.
Also, lmao if you think separating them would have stopped servers crashing. For anyone that works in an industry with servers or online services, you will know its pretty much impossible to stop natural human overload. The technology isnt there yet. If enough people are there, the servers will crash. No matter how much money you throw at the servers.
Also, just because they didnt do the monetary aspect in a way thats efficient to you doesnt mean they didnt treat it seriously. You’re making huge nonsenical reaches in logic. Also known as wow forum echo chamber syndrome.
And to add on top of that, if they were to cash in separate subs i would quit classic-retail immediately, no looking back, I had my share of paid vanilla back in the day.
Others are able to handle the load caused by players in a single location in Vanilla that Blizzard is unable to do. So to me it seems quite likely that the problem is precisely their unwillingness to throw enough money at the problem.
Not that it has anything to do with a shared sub… That is just ridiculous to even suggest.
They dont need that much money to improve the servers, the reason they havent is probably minimisation of cost which means theyre probably not even interested in increasing performance per server and use set configuration profiless for each
Personally if they separate the costs I Will lose my link with people I’ve played wow with for years, I’ll basically have to double my cost to keep in touch with hard fought contacts and good Friends who are like you and me wow players and that is Just evil
Ignorant evil, but evil
Classic or BFA, the game is no fun without Friends and legit Friends in wow are hard fought so I would stick with friends and while classic is in my eyes a better game in nearly every way, my longfought Friends dont