It was my subtle way of saying keep your phobia and bigotry out of the thread so we can actually have a discussion 
Not you personally, āyouā āyourā in the general sense here ofc.
I miss having males to wave and call my friends. Now we have all these boring people that canāt stay firm being what they are cool people.
#bring back males
But, to be brutally honest, this rhetoric does just as much damage to having a civil conversation. It has to come from both sides of the issue.
You canāt come out and call people those things and expect them to react in a nice manner.
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And I definitely donāt want to be a mere adventurer. Itās funny how peopleās preferences vary.
Frequently see this come up as a point.
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You act like this is a world changing problem that plauges the game making it unplayable.What harm does this do to you exactly? Im trully asking what is the problem with that your VIDEO GAME CHARACTER referred in the game as an it and not your prefered pronounce? (in a game where i bet you skip most of the dialogue anyway). Seriously why is this such a headache for everyone. There are no better things to worry about in your life? I wish I was this blessed.
Why a game cant be simply just a game?
Itās that, from a lore point of view, you cannot have hundreds of thousands of champions. At the same time, Champions are more suited for just showing up for morale and maybe as the front line at a large-scale combat; they are not suited for fetch tasks.
And lining this up with my previous post, we need a leader who will say: āChampion, I have summoned you because I am removing your rank and I no longer recognize your contribution to our past victories. The people may like you and they may still refer to you as their saviour, but for me and for Stormwind/Orgrimmar you are now a disposable soldier. Now go and < do this quest that gives gold and reputation>ā.
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Yes itās always a little bit here and a little bit thereā¦ Eventually all those little bits add up to a lot. If its not world changing why does it matter to them? Two can play that game.
It IS a game, set in a fantasy world and weāre still bringing in nonsense from our own.
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I simply view that I am the only one.
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It goes against the whole ārightā that transgender and nonbinary people are fighting for. But not only that; it also makes the more traditionally minded people angry because their traditional division is taken away.
Itās a bad call; it angers both sides. Of course thereās also a huge playerbase stuck in the middle who donāt really care much either way, but yeah.
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On that we are agreed. It was the rest of your comment I take issue with. No-one should have to change who they are, thatās the whole point, but you were fine with the previous way, when it suited you, without thinking of others who felt forced.
Thereās at least a few others cause raids and dungeons are cleared by a group.
Iāll assume itās just my alts.
NPCs, naturally.
But Iām actually one of those people who wants to be a nobody. An underdog.
I definitely donāt want to be a leader or commander.
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Oh, letās see nowā¦
The vast majority of people on the planet identify as either male or female. There are exceptions, but those exceptions are and will always be a minority.
Of that same minority, the amount of people who want to see additional options added to cater to them is not something that applies across the board as the LGBT ācommunityā is not, in fact, a hive mind.
Nonetheless, there are those who are at least willing to entertain a compromise provided it does not come at the expense of what existed already.
So what happens? We lose access to the ability to refer to our character as either āmaleā or āfemaleā. Now, suddenly, it āisnāt a big dealā. If that is truly the case, there would be no need to push this in the first place.
Who is meant to be catered to? Speaking as a gay guy myself, I am a guy who likes other guys exclusively. I do not entertain other options, I am exclusively interested in men and masculine ones at that.
As such, I would like my characters to reflect that - and be referred to and addressed as men.
Itās not rocket science. You cannot say on one hand that itās important to ārespect peopleās identity/pronounsā and on the other insist on taking away options to identify specifically as āmaleā or āfemaleā.
Itās difficult to believe that these changes are made in good faith as a result.
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Yes because āthe previous wayā was working just fine and didnāt need to be changed in the first place. Iām not asking anyone to change who they are, feel and do whatever makes you happy - truly. But Iām getting pretty tired of constantly being asked to change who I am to suit others.
But this is a discussion without any winners so it is what it is.
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Great post.
The smallest minority is the individual. And this community this and community that de-individualizes us.
I also hear stories how current trends and āforceful social changeā has hurt the perception of lesbians and gays and it feels like undoing a lot of progress. Official definitions of homosexuality were also edited to be attraction towards a person of the same gender, not sex.
So it definitely feels like there is no such thing as a monolithic hivemind community. But for some reason it is presented as such.
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I still donāt see group content as diminishing my role. I donāt view them as Champions. I am the champion. They are just part of the army.
I do understand we all see things differently but that is just what happens in my head.
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Oh please, i just pointed out that it was Blizzard themselves who first introduced politics into their game, as an extreme reaction to their own legal situation if i might add.
To me personally? i couldnāt care less, but i do think that what they did was stupid and the worst way to be inclusive. You canāt really sell the idea of representation and inclusiveness when your way to do it is by removing the two most socially accepted and used terms and the pronouns that go with them.
So all iām saying is that instead of expecting people to be happy to be a generic gender neutral body 1 or body 2, let people be a female space goat that NPCās refer to as she/her and add options so that someone can be a body 1 orc with the female voice that npcās refer to as they/them. Options, as i said, will always be the best way to deal with this.
But again, i couldnāt care less. If the topic arises and iām bored (as today) i will certainly give my opinion.
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Youāre the champion.
Weāre just your hero back up dancers.
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I have thought this too sometimes.
Puny allies 
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