Got to love Sheldon!
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Mods have been good at removing the worst and leaving the thread intact
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Well Iâll be honest when I say I was a little upset when I saw it getting flagged and hidden as fast as it was yesterday. But then I got my hopes up again when the mod team unflagged it.
As you can see by my post count I donât really hang around here, never really did. But for this specific issue I just didnât know where else I could post it. Couldâve tried Wowhead or MMO-Champion but I guarantee you that thing wouldâve been shut down in record time on both of those sites, probably for the entirely opposite reasons too.
Really? Thatâs good to hear, it means people agree.
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I can definetely imagine that, I have also been flagged for reason I am unsure of but in the end thereâs thankfully no real harm, would be a shame though for this to go under as the idea itself is quite good.
Rather have additions then subtractions or even replacements.
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Thereâs been a definite change in attitude from the moderation team on this topic. Theyâve basically gone from ânever discuss this at all in any wayâ to âdonât disparage people for their sexualityâ which, personally, I think is fantastic.
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To the original topic, it has been a thing since shadowlands.
It was so cool when Tyrande called me a daughter of Teldrassil but past that it was all âtheyâ and âmaw walkerâ. If they value immersion then they can let us choose.
Iâd love for my girls to be called she but it genuinely feels like a point of no return for wow. I donât think itâs designed for the majority of people playing it. Itâs not really inclusive that way, but if inclusivity and accessibility were something they cared about we wouldnât have pathfinder for regular flight when people get motion sickness with dragonriding, for example. Theyâd record additional lines so that our characters would get their pronouns right. Itâs not even often weâre addressed with pronouns in wow, weâre mostly observers or simply called champion/the expansionâs word. It would be very very few lines in need of re-recording.
To me itâs obviously hypocritical and meant to benefit their PR with minimal effort when they do things, then they just⌠stop, suddenly we have a feature thatâs really inaccessible, really just against what they claim to stand for and we go on a repeat, yet we keep playing :')
Also, edit: the pronoun and voice picker was datamined long before. They just never added it. I assume they planned to around dragonflight launch but then they saw the response to the body 1&2 changes.
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I disagree to some extent, a lot of these topics were up and descended into horrible cesspools of vile comments and werenât moderated at all. They were left up far too long. Then eventually would just be closed as they were long beyond redeption.
But on the whole Iâve found moderation mostly very good for some time now.
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Iâm donât know if somebody already mentioned this, but for me the matter can be easily extended to wanting more recognition of character identity in general, not just gender. NPCs could refer to us by our name, if they know us, by title, class, by past deeds and so on.
I know itâs not super easy to implement, but itâs far from impossible and itâs been done in the past, from time to time.
âGreetings, Fun Gal.â
We often are referred to by name in the quest text, I guess that was an easy one.
Voiced:
Well, race certainly wouldnât work since theyâd have to re-record for old expansions to keep that working - I donât think they want that.
Name - theyâd have to use AI to pronounce them, I imagine. Iâm not sure Iâd want that.
Title - maybe if we could pick out from a few, but I somehow doubt theyâd re-record the same line for each title on so many characters. Itâs not worth it.
I could go on. We can have special cases like certain npcs whoâd normally have a more special interaction with us.
Examples: Tyrande with the horde & night elves
Class npcs from, say, legion class halls with their leader using the title.
So allow us to hear our pronouns at the very least and get rid of champion unless it fits the occasion.
Text: You can go wild there and they wouldnât need to do much, they can just use your settings as they are. They can reflect choices and progress, all kinds of things.
Second this, I just noticed that I was refered to as they despite in the past always being lad/lass or at least by class or something, what gives, this isnt voiced dialogue its just text, there is no reason you should be lazy about this. Seriously this is done in gacha games when they dont want to account for your choice of protagonist, dont be like that.
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Thereâs a lot of people in this thread who are apparently deeply opposed to the perceived philosophy and ideology of Blizzard and who still choose to throw money at them monthly. Wild.
Any game without a fanbase capable of constructive criticism will soon stagnate or decline.
This here is quite constructive I would say. Wild.
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Enough people mispronounce my name as it is. Donât want to add AI into the mix xD
Although I do remember on old Ventrillo or maybe it was TS, you could set up your own phonetics for your name.
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I do enjoy being called âCHAMPION!!!â by Magni for the billionth timeâŚ
not
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Not every problem or issue people might have with the game is so significant to them that theyâll quit over it. Wild.
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Pun-knee-el-fu
How could anyone get that wrong?
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Yep. Thereâs also those of us who did quit, played a different game and then saw the exact same problems creeping in but to a more jarring degree.
I quit Final Fantasy XIV for that very reason - it changed the tone and aesthetics far too much across the board to the point where World of Warcraft ended up being more consistentâŚwhich says it all, really.
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