Yeah i agree every class can get to +15 (progression stops at +15 with 210 vs 207 ilvl from end dungeon, the achievement and mount). But also progression is easier on meta classes. When you stack the ‘bad’ classes like i do, it is harder to get there Your class is a factor for the whole road. On +2 and +20.
I think we can agree that fire mages are top1 in dps right now for any m+ dungeon even if you skip half the prides.
I never said they re only brought by damage, my point is that being top1 in damage while giving so much utility is totally busted.
And of course uh dk is busted as well, so is boomkin, ww and more.
They re top tier in dps while giving much more utility than the classes at the bottom.
And target cap is another sad thing, which makes it even harder to compete for other classes.
The important thing is the comp, not the class.
i am aware they are number 1 thats for sure, atleast in organised play, outside of organised play they rarely get close to what u see them do which is likely why i’ve never felt all that threatened by them.
Fire mage is Exceptional when paired with a tank who pulls around its CDs… which is why im suprised i see so many going nuts for em in pugs when they die in the waters When a random af tank just doesnt give 2 about their CDs.
and ye… top tier classes bringing al lthe utility ontop of their placement is whack. but tbh i’ve met individuals who do actually beleive “Pure DPS Should do more DPS”. so i dunno maybe theres more at blizzard who agree with that view.
but its just the life story of M+ Realistically.
you get your top 4 Speccs who become meta.
your mid pack speccs which get somewhere and can do decent.
then ur trash speccs who cant get anything in M+.
which makes wow boring
After last week of tyrannical with the bosses health being nerfed some bosses cleared felt better but some of them still really feel awful because of mechanics stacking once you reach a certain key level like Hakkar or the last boss of NW (can’t remember its name).
plaguefalls all bosses in there unkillable during tyranical
Necrotic wake rip key.
Sanguine Depths GLHF
You can clear +15 tyra with 200 ilevel. It’s easy if you’re not dying to avoidable things and using your defensives.
Nah, PF bosses are honestly not that bad in tyrannical, the third is a bit annoying but only once you reach like 15+, last boss is really easy, dodges tentacles and use cooldowns on last phase and you’re good.
Unless you don’t use the weapons correctly NW bosses are also not that bad.
Third boss would be the most annoying of the bunch in tyrannical but if you time your pride and use BL he melts fairly fast.
Obviously you have to know mechanics and do a minimum of dps for them to be beatable.
I’m probably biased because I’ve done these dungeons dozens of times but they don’t really feel that bad once you practice them a bit.
this makes tyrannical boring,.
sure is boring
I love how you said warriors is 9% representation wich is fury and arms combined and then compared to fire mage instead of all mage population wich is 12.3 % compared to 9% of warriors.
That said it’s across all keys so that just mostly represent overall population of clases where paladins and hunters are most played with mage very close 3rd.
What you should have posted is class representation on 15+ keys where it actualy matters.
Quick edit: i see you are hiding behind level 50 alt so is my assumptation that you main mage correct?
yeah isn’t that funny
and why 15+ would matter if its only done by 1% of playerbase ?
what really matters is +2-10 - because thats where majority of m+ players are .
thats overall problem with many many m+ groups though .
very few use food , in 2-10 nobody uses flasks , nobody uses pots , doubt anyone uses oils/health/mana pots. invisibilty pots ? lol nobody has them .
in 15-20 ? im willing to bet majority of players who push them use those all the time untill they have it on heavy farm and overgear it a lot.
im betting that if flasks pots costed 10g instead 250-1000 people would use them a lot . but hey then blizzard wouldnt sell tokens .
Why do you think that only 1% of wow population are doing 15 keys. If anything most of people interested in M+ are doing 10+ keys by this point. When i finaly got to my first 15 key i got some 20+ signups in 1st min where i had difficulty find people in lover keys.
Also people in lower keys can’t even get their basic rotation off wich is not good indication how class performs.
because that 1% is only fire mage balance druids mind set expack of shadowlands
tis’ the mind set of wow community sees shadow with 14 years experience picks mage fire or balance druid who played for 1 month as fire or balance tops dps.
its a gimmick that fire balance has become of this expack now.