Can't put decent title because I will spoil next patch

Fair enough and yeah the Alliance does have a human superiority problem.

In BfA when our characters was send to meet with “Alliance” High Command it existed of Anduin Wrynn, Mathias Shaw, Jaina Proudmoore, Halford Wyrmbane and Genn Greymane, which were only humans!

Also, I understand the night elf players get how they get, I mean alot of Horde players (looking at a certain blood elf mage) only look at the Horde-side of things too, entirelly ignoring the Alliance and night elves and what they suffered too! But don’t forget that twice, the night elves drew the short end of the stick in the last two wars (both started by the Horde too).

I mean, you get frustrated that you were betrayed by your warchief, but the night elf players actually were invaded twice and lost their entire nation twice.

As a Forsaken player, would you be alright with first losing half of Lordaeron, and then for peace having to withdraw from a buffer zone, which then becomes an entire Alliance-symbol capital city for a new Alliance race. And then a couple years later, the Alliance would invade your nation again and proveed to slaughter it’s way from the border to your capital city, which they then destroyed with thousands of Forsaken still in it.

Yes, night elf players are at times… really anoying on these forums, but there’s a reason behind it. We meme about night elves bieng punching bags, but except for recapturing Darkshore, what victory did they have so far?

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To be fair, WoW doesn’t really do uplifting victories for any race, they only do failures, losses to be mourned, war crime victories to be regretted, and triumphs for all of Azeroth.

…which might be a big part of the problem, I guess…

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Me up until BFA : “I hate human exceptionalism so much”
Me when a bunch of KT pirates join the Horde : “Omg welcome hooman frens”

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Imagine playable horde humans. Would be so awesome.

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If you want to play human, the Alliance is here waiting for you. Or go Forsaken, those rotting corpses are closer to your personality.

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Yeaaaa I’d be so down for playable Fogsail Freebooters. That would even give us a starting zone in Kul Tiras. How cool would that be!!!

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Dude.

But yeah… We once were indeed human.

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It would’ve been better if this event would be displayed at the relevant time, and would have as much effort placed in it, including cinematic side, as the BfA pre-patch had.


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I’d say it’s quite reasonable to hate the Horde from an rp perspective after bfa as an Alliance player. I mean, the Horde did burn Teldrassil, and then they waged a war with the intent to destroy the Alliance, heedless of how many lives it would take to do so. Couple that with the fact that no real payback or catharsis has yet happened for that whole mess, and you a have a lot of bitter Alliance players. Personally, until the Horde does something quite drastic to redeem themselves, I don’t want to see a single Horde character or interact with them unless it involves killing them.

I agree. But rp’ing bitterness toward the Horde, and having an objective, open, honest discussion about the story are 2 very different things. My Forsaken character feels the nelves got what they deserved after their treatment of Sylvanas, their former ranger-general. As a person I think the nelves deserve some sort of retribution.
I am getting really tired of never really getting any sort of resolve, it’s just burying the hatchet until the next world-ending threat is eliminated by yet another joined effort of Horde and Alliance.

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The feeling is mutual. I don’t want to see any Alliance scum unless I can kill them.

Go derail your own threads please, this is supposed to be a somewhat friendly discussion. It’s been doing really well with very little hostility.

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Right, but what we want are clearly different things. And that will affect discussions.

Sylvanas has no relations to the night elves beyond genociding them. For all we know, she never even visited Teldrassil before bfa.

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In the story forums, what should prevail is the objective discussion of the story.

If you want to argue through some role playing lens, there is different forum category for that.

Yes, but that means you’re not here to discuss. In a place dedicated for discussion. Focused on people of both sides making said discussion.

What is there to get from trying to apply biased views, whether reasonable or not, in a discussion around controversies? The only thing I can think of is to purposely verbally harass the subjects and individuals to get some kind of depraved kick out of it.

I’m open to be proved wrong here. I still haven’t been after I asked repeatedly before. :man_shrugging:

Uuh, Sylvanas was the Ranger-General of the high/blood elves, not the night elves.

You really hate the Horde, don’t you?

She never visited or talked with the night elves before BfA.

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Think it was less trying to make a character point and more how incredibly silly it is to try and take part in a discussion when your only contribution is complete bias and/or roleplay.

Both regardless have their own channels, either way.

To note, I am not partial to any side with this. It’s just a shame to see most arguments and discussions here boil down to pretty much: “Well my character isn’t/is…” or “I am Horde/Alliance supremacy brrr…”

Yeah, no. Wrong place.

There are only biased views. There is no such thing as a perfectly objective viewpoint.

But anyways, I agree that this place is for discussing the story. But it’s also a place to discuss where people think the story will go, and where people want the story to go.

That’s… a very meta answer. With that logic, any impartial open view is also considered a biased view because choosing to be open and impartial is some kind of bias in itself.

Wierd. But okay, I get your point?

Look at my post again. I did not, nor did I ever state that posters are disallowed ever discuss the path of a story, or where it will go.

Well, then I can only add that I agree that people should leave the roleplay out of it, and adress eachother like you normally would.

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