I mean Paladins had Crusader Strike in the beta, it got removed when the game released (1.1.0) and they later added it in TBC.
Paladins had many problems before release and they had serten abiletys they could spam and out dps any other class and in the end they just took all away.
Mages need to be tuned down bit.
Its bad enough beating the bots for npc tags, then some mage comes along and pulls the whoel area, aoeâs down everything and walks off quest completed. Stupid design.
Nerf Mage aoe, lets others have a chance on the quest mobs.
Oh and before you scream âGroup upâ, these mages arenât giving up their free XP are they?
Just implement the 10 mob aoe cap from tbc/wrath. And personal ignite from tbc/wrath. There, done, mage continues to fill its niche of best aoe class without silly things like zf graveyard of mara 300 mob pulls.
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Makes me happy that you acknowledge that people like me, who vouch for no changes, are the reason why these changes will not happen.
We are also the reason why you, or anybody else for that matter, got to play Classic these past 5 years by the way.
Now you say we are braindead without going into detail. Could you elaborate? I have consistently shared my views on this over the years in the forums, but I am interested as to why you need to be divisive about it.
I assume, you will have arguments we will not be able to refute.
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Just accept you (and me) belongs to the Classic Andy race.
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Undead Mage. Of course.
By Elune, the delusion of grandour on you is almost comical.
The only reason we have Classic is because some analyst at Blizzard realized Nostalrius had viable numbers on it to milk for some nostalgia cash before they shut it down. That is all. They saw profit opportunity in proof of concept and took it.
And Nostalrius was no-changes because they only had stock mangos to work with, not because of some high minded ideal of purity and quality. I have it on good authority they would have gone classic+ route like turtle and the like if they had the capability.
me too 
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This would be VERY restrictive, and make forming of groups a pain.
Zero arguments? SurpriseâŚ
I was part of the pserver community that vouched for the return of Classic servers for years, away from the retail versions of the game. Stating this is not a delusion, but a fact.
Yes, and the proof of concept was a no changes Vanilla server. Thanks for the insights.
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Well, there was hunger and poverty in a medieval village and generally everyone voted to lower taxes and increase food rationing. But at some point, a fat, rich baron stood in the village square and said: i donât see any problem, so no changes.
Being Undead Mage yelling about #nochanges is truly comical. And it only confirms my theory about braindead people being the main problem with any changes on classic.
No offense dude, but even your guild name is making this whole polemics a meme.
No worries, you canât offend me.
Classic World of Warcraft is widely regarded as one of the best games of all time. Yet here you are comparing it with a hungry medieval villageâŚ
My brother, who is a much better player than me, has a full T3 orc hunter, a full T3 orc shaman, and a T2 UD priest. Does this fact make him comical too?
âyellingâ
No need to keep on insulting in the absence of arguments. Thanks for your contribution.
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I literally said 3 times that you shouldânt even be involved in talking about #nochanges because youâre playing the most complete and op class in vanilla. Its not insulting when you call stupid people âstupidâ.
Its like youâre having fun with your class and you dont want other people playing other classes have fun with their classes.
A monkey who has a banana does not want other monkeys to have a banana.
Fortunately for everyone involved you are not in charge of determining who can talk and who canât.
Also, judging by what you write, I do not think you would have fun with a banana, nor with a full fruit plate.
Where do I âyellâ and âdont want people to have funâ?
In your head.
Regarding the topic at hand - Changes have been introduced en masse in SoD, and some in SoM and Anniversary. Era remains the closes to no changes. There is a space for every type of player and every taste of the game.
Even for you.
Bro, you really should quit Copium. Its killing you.
In your head my fellow WoW enjoyer. Just in your head.
Ahm lets be honnest shaman enha/elemental or feral/balance druid or retri pala shadow priest, all those are hybrid dps support. The only problem with those is mana efficiency, and yes at some point mana efficiency can be handled with all the consumables so you can even get past KT fight keeping ur dps relatively up all the time with just some conserving. However the big issue is the mana/dps ratio take for example a t1 warlock or a t1 hunter shadow bolt and aim shot can even hit up to 3k for like what? 300 mana? thats 10X mana to dps output. Ofc those classes are hydrid they are not ment to be top dps and those specs are dps/support meaning that perhaps 30-40% of they dps they bring on the table during raid comes from the benefited buffs on other raiders. However that doesnt mean that warrior should be the top dps. Top dps classes should be mage/warlock/rogues in other blatant words yes warriors must be nerfed about 40% of dps to be slightly behind in dps from the above classes mentioned. As for hybrids im pretty sure that there can be some tweak here and there, and give them a small dps pump to be relatively about almost as a survival spec hunter dps. For example paladin has a meele ability every 10 seconds less with talents âjudgement of commandâ that could proc the seal of command and give him an extra swing⌠downside? Judgement removes the seal when casted, breaking the spec. As for shaman they got stormstrike but for 20 seconds they got wf weapon for 20%, and they also have wf totem that they do not benefit from, imagine if they could have wf weapon and wf totem for pve. or if stormstrike since its an ability was proccing 100% wf weapon. As for druids they got omen of clarity that works only for meele so rip balance druid, as for meele speed its just only 1 sec on cat making abilities so weak, imagine if it was say 2 seconds and it was scaling better with AP due to speed. As for SP⌠let SWP tick unlimited debuff slots like in SoD , and as for mind flay give it the ability to crit or at full cast refund mana. But hey remember #nochanges . I guess we just pointlessly theory talking in the endâŚ