Yeah I was talking with Shad about that and the state of DH in keys. The biggest takeaway was the disparity in ST dam between the ST build and AoE build being one of the biggest problems, in order to do AoE you have to do negative boss dam.
Wait, could it be that onslaught proc rate is incorrect in the sim?
I would guess that they already checked that.
In general yes, but i don’t really think that dh is bad, it’s about average. I think they jumped the gun in pre patch with the dh nerf, and it seems that it never fully recovered.
Ps: I red about annihilation a long time ago, apparently they fixed this, but havoc still oversims.
that’s a huge wall of text for saying “yes i’m sub 2k and i buy boosts”
Who cares about logs? as a tank lmao. I don’t raid because i hate raiding. Notice my lack of raid trinkets (Beacon+Anvil bis for damage) raid weapon (bis for damage), which literally means i can’t compete in logs for damage. I focus on staying alive in a pug, nothing else. You’re hitting 80% in low keys with low ilvl and bad players as a class with 3 buttons. I’m doing 23, logging against good players in premades. You don’t accidentally reach 3k.
i’m 100% sure i am better than you. You are a casual player with the same score we all hit week 1 lmao. What you don’t know can fill a book. Why play 12 characters when you can’t play any of them properly. You can’t even time a 20. xD
Yea you’re just an insufferable cretin, bb.
See you never.
yeah i don’t do(fail) 16s lol so probably not
1,864 rio and 440 ilvl ahaha. 4 less than me
thet wat boostie sey lol
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Take a quick look at my logs, do you think i need boosts? Take a look, and realize how dumb you are.
You guys are frankly really unintelligent.
Believe whatever you want though.
The other guy literally did not even read the comment, otherwise he would have realized how stupid is argument was, and you are the same.
And this is the problem with unintelligent people, you have no integrity, no logic process, you just open your air hole and say stupid things, without even checking whether they are true, or whether they even make sense. The point is purely for provocation, while i actually explained the reasoning behind my arguments. That’s the difference between me and you. You two instead didn’t explain anything, your argument is effectively, “low score must mean bad player”, even though i explained the reason behind this, i even acknowledged that it is low score, because i have something called integrity, and self awareness. Most of all the logs support my argument, i want you to find many other players that are getting in the 83% average with the incorrect setup, i guarantee you, you’re not gonna find many, and that’s why i’m confident when i say that i’m better than about 90% of players, and you are likely included in that 90%, your 3k score frankly means nothing to me in the face of this, i am not ashamed to say it, and that’s just with havoc, i can do the same with just about any other dps spec. Whether you believe this or not is frankly irrelevant to me, you can just look at the numbers.
Your arguments are frankly at the same level of arguments as “not playing a meta spec, must mean you’re bad” That’s how stupid you sound to me, take a moment to think about it.
Anyway i’m done replying to this garbage, frankly speaking your arguments are complete and utter trash, just remember, i wasn’t the one to start this.
yaaay ret pala buffs
“brooo look at my logs, i’ve got 80% even though i’m literally the only one playing DH”
lmao.
Get 3k. Then come back. Should be easy enough for a god dps like yourself.
You think that dps is all that is required as a dps, THATS why you are a clown.
I would love to see a recording of a key you do. No interrupts, not stopping required spells with stuns etc. Not caging affixes. Dying to 1 shots because the mobs become so dangerous. Not using the single defensive (which you would complain about if you were a real dps player) you have to prevent incoming damage, just popping it when you get low. Not using darkness preemptively on the party. You’re just a literal zugbot that thinks DPS logs are the only aspect of the game. That’s why you fail 20s and have sub 2k rio.
a year later game still feels like in beta, no balance at all.
I won’t be able to take 1%, I just don’t output 24 keys. there is no survival rate.
so much backlash on this tuning , would be much better to make an emergency reworks for all other class issues , the new evoker specc just pushed a little unbalance over the top
Got to love these mid season nerfs.
DH before you said, few classes except mages can do more than 300k in BH without aug, but still no proofs. I gues ure lier in any situation.
Some thoughts inspired by reddit and I’d love to share.
I’m not quite sure if developers are mocking us or simply they are pretty lost. Or just they are a bunch of incompetents.
As a matter of fact, the worst thing about these last SP changes is that they come out as a mockery, since they have been erasing and destroying, one by one, most of the “Season 2 fabulous class rework” announced by Blizzard themselves.
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“New” talent feature giving 30% extra VT damage. Now, they issue a 20% nerf. Wouldn’t have been better not to introduce this talent at all and let us spend points into something else?
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Pyschic link downgraded to 40% (then effectively 30%) split damage on targets out of the 60% prepatch value, since, now it would be affected also by DP and by SWD too. Ok, let’s nerf it to 25% and then 15%.
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Yogg Aberration: in season two finally is able to scale with mastery. As a matter of fact now, after nerfing its damage twice in a row, it deals the same damage as it was doing in season 1 even if now we have 20+ additional item level.
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They recently buffed our single target damage because “they felt it was fair to balance our overperforming aoe damage having more incomes from the ST spells”, which somehow could compensate Yogg and psychic link nerfs. And now they kill the apparitions, VT and SWP damage.
Well done Blizzard! Wasting your time destroying your own work.
I wonder you realize how pointless, unjustified and useless this last nerf is. Since we already had an average aoe damage and still, not the best ST one (compared to other classes who are truly overperforming now.)
And how poorly has been made the choice to introduce a supportive class during mid season, which basically ruined all the balance amongst classes.
Plus.
When you type “we keep monitoring” what exactly are you monitoring? Because as far as I can see you haven’t got that SP can’t be reduced to simply PI, MS and MD dispensers.
And even if you nerf their damage, it’s their utilities making them an appropriate choice for this season.
Whenever I’m in dungeon I see other classes having their damage floating thanks to my PI.
So what about to make PI a self buff for shadows (as somebody already mentioned)? It would be interesting to see how this would put Holy and Discilpine priests like a valuable choice as healers again, and how other classes overall damage would be truly balanced.
Plus, MD it’s the cure for everything and with MS you skip basically whatever you want.
Work on that.
So, in the end, you can keep cutting, destroying, nerfing, adjusting a thousand things just because you are unable to face the problem to the root.
Just the simple fact you felt the urgency to change a talent, Psychic Link, 4 times in a row during the same season, it’s the proof you have no absolute idea of what you’re doing.
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Arms struggles the same issue. Its a design error
Yeah I remember gelly complaining about it a lot last season. You did massive burst aoe with the bladestorm building str into dragon thing, and the ST damage could be kinda fixed with funnel on certain bosses, but yes arms st is sorely lacking outside of execute in its m+ builds.
Fury is a lot more consistent between the two damage styles but it’s target capped.
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They should change PI to a self buff only that does like:
25% haste and 25% damage/healing for 20sec, 2min cd.
Or just flat 40% haste for 20sec, 2min cd.
This way we will have less QQ about classes balanced around PI.
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My guess is they’ve hired the same developers of Hello Kitty Online.
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Dear blizzard, you do understand that these nerfs won’t change the meta? All you’re doing is rolling back key levels and making it harder for people to compete if they did’nt abuse the god comp. Fire mage and augmentation will still be strong, and priest is basically required due to how dungeons were designed this season. Sure, you could bring a holy/disc priest, but those specs are still bad.
I really don’t get how nearly every change this season in reguards to class balance went unchecked before releasing. It’s almost like you don’t care anymore xD Also, the fact it takes something like the great push to show you how bad you’re game is right now… sucks. Maybe start paying attention to people who actually play the game? I’m not a class developer, but clearly the ones you have are not very good 
You need to start addressing other classes/specs in the game. Throwing down the nerf hammer is an easy solution, but it’s not fixing the specs that completely suck in game right now is it?
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