Class Tuning Incoming – 9 August

You’re parsing what? Look for a while what you parse in dungeons. 81.7 Perf average per ilvl, and 54.7 average. I guess you are pretty delusional.
Meanwhile me on Arcane I have 97.7 Perf average and 67.3.

Also the logs just define your damage. I checked the death logs for all your dungeons, and you die more in 14s-18s than I die in 22s-23s. I’ve done more 20s without death than you have dungeons in total. So what are you about? About the rotation? I play one of the hardest considered specs at this moment, that even you said you can’t comprehend. And I’m doing it barely woken up, and still dying less than you. You have instant cc on your dh, and still you cc less affixes than me, on my mage. All for the sake of logs. That is in your logs too.

The fact that as I said, you die twice to the same mechanic, it’s also in your logs. Same as dying from frontals, melee and what any avoidable damage you want. And you are doing it every dungeon, doing 16s at 440, where you outgear and half of the avoidable damage shouldn’t kill you anyway.

You check my raid logs, where I was going 1.5 months ago? Before rework, and mostly out of obligation for some items, because raid on hc is pretty boring. Also, parses on hc? I don’t see you doing mythic raiding(and I’m not doing it either), so stop pretending you are above 90% of the players. Where also you have 4 times more kills than me.

You are average Joe - 2k rating, dying from any mechanic, prioritize dps over mechanics. And all of these are in your logs too, but not reflected in numbers. So stop trying to fool people with the number, cause anyone who can actually check those logs, will know that you are straight on average

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I didn’t say i don’t care, i already said that i play a lot of alts.

Although i play frost dk more, i sometimes play unholy, you think i don’t want them to fix these problems?

With this meta? Surely not. You just don’t get invite in nerfed dungeons. If ure not meta ofc

Come back to me when you have better logs, that’s all i’m gonna say about that.

You don’t have the privilege to be so arrogant.

Yea, 80% + on any spec i play is definitely average.

Suit yourself, i don’t really care, and i don’t really need your validation. I know what i’m doing.

Only if ‘everyone’ doesn’t like challenging content, I guess :person_shrugging:

Dungeon parses are meaningless.

Those are raid parses, anyway i don’t really wanna prolong this conversation too much.

The original point was not even about this, they made it a competition, not me.

As I said - Average Joe. Cares about the dps parse, doesn’t care he dies from any avoidable damage, when he outgears the dungeon and it shouldn’t. On higher difficulties, half of the damage you are taken from avoidable would instantly kill you → you will not even finish a dungeon.

Also, having 1 kill out of 5 with 80, and saying that all my logs are over 80…that is just brainless. You have the rest of them with 50-55. Which place you right above the average Joe.

Let’s not say that doing parses in hc, doesn’t put you anyway near better than 90% of the players, as at least 20% do mythic raid → where considering how you die in dungeons, you would die every time.

So maybe my 3k doesn’t mean anything. Bu the fact that I don’t die from avoidable damage every dungeon, or twice in the same encounter, that automatically makes me better

actually there could be much more, but they are not invited. I don’t play as ret in 20+. only with friends who invite me often. because i’m not crazy and i won’t spam group invites for hours.

and the search for your own keys 23-25 takes much longer, because top classes prefer to look for a better group. and they have insta invites. The advantage is that top players who have nothing to do with ridiculous “meta” often register here. and I see how they play. people often give their all and i have to say that they did a great job!

if you have a lot of time and a lot of motivation, you might be able to do it. But I have better things to do in life. especially this whole 8x dungeons nonsense gets boring quickly.

I see you’re just gonna double down on stupid. On ignore you go.

I guess much less in last 3 weeks. But can’t check by phone. And as I said in beginning. Good this nerfs or bad - it’s helping a lot

When someone brings you proofs you are not that good → straight on ignore. Keep going Average Joe. Glad you don’t do higher keys. I had enough boosted newbies there, just like you → “oNlY dpS mAttErS”

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Out of curiosity, how is pugging as arcane?

Ez. A lot of people didn’t check your spec. Did you see augtir who not aug?

Fine. Mostly doing my own key. Also people believe I am fire, and pretty much getting kicked after seeing I’m not. But had groups that decided to call me for the next key either after seeing that arcane is viable for 22-23s.

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Yeah, I wondered about getting kicked because of not being fire. It reminds me of when I pugged as feral druid in SL, and I used to jump around in chicken form until the key went in.

Maybe I’ll try playing my mage a bit. I’m getting burned out on pugging as hunter.

Thanks :slight_smile:

I recommend frost mage. For most pugs it’s better than arcane. Frost mage is also better than fire for most pugs to be honest.

While both arcane and fire generally require the group to pull around your cds to do exceptional damage, frost is more versatile, and they have probably the best st in the game, while still having excellent aoe.

The only issue is that their aoe is stationary, so if you have a tank that just moves around a lot it’s gonna be a problem.

Tbh, until like 20s, nobody cares what spec of mage you are playing, as all of them are viable at this moment.

The problems for me started at 22s, where people only wanted fire. I guess things might change next week. If my math is right, arcane might become the best spec mage has to offer, as utility is now the same across all the specs. Y, I don’t have a cheat death, or double ice block, but still I provide the same thing to the group and a bit better target focusing in AoE.

I had a tank that did pulls for me (matching my cds and so on), and it went pretty good. So in organized groups, might become the choice if they won’t go for boomy-lock-aug-disc-druid/vdh.

Late edit: I was kicked more frequently in 12s on my elemental shammy for not being encha. Seems like people in 12s are…not the most gifted ones

As long as a sizeable chunk of the community as well as blizz think balance means everyone doing equal numbers in every situation, WoW will never be balanced.

3% here, -5% there type of changes do absolutely nothing. The top 1% picks setups based on utility compositions and the rest based on what feels good and how comfortable it is to play.

that’s why most people with 2-3 roles in raider io are top picks. you get to know the game from all sides. and people who timed high keys as tank studied the mobs spells and configured omnicd/bigwigs. that alone brings a lot of advantages. especially with the prot pala it was mandatory because he was able to save the situation in chaotic pug runs.