Classic Dungeon Finder

[Krutoj-lakeshire]

@Vallyn-ragnaros

If there is an npc giving 10k gold for free, would you use it? And would you use it if at least half the player base was using it and inflating every price?
“Given the chance, players will optimise the fun out of a game.”

Your argument is lacking. Because it leads to a paradox. If everybody would use this NPC, gold would become worthless, because everybody has access to unlimited amounts of gold. Therefore people would stop to use gold to trade and therefore wouldn’t use the NPC anymore.

So I will show you a better metaphor, that was originaly made for the exact same argument you are naming, but actually works in favor of the RDF if you start to think about it.

@Krutoj-lakeshire

@Scarekraaw-mograine

Doesnt really work like that, I answered to it in another thread;

Imagine a population having to cross the river to get food, each for themselfs. They are offered a big boat, where everybody can row to make it easier (normal dungeon concept). The people that are motivated, no matter how often, will jump into the boat and row together - helping themselfs but also the people around them.

Then imagine the introduction of a mototboat (LFD). It does the job crossing the river for you and even speeds up the process.

Would it be as easy as saying “If you dont like motodriven vehicles then dont use it” when now many of the people who where previously forced to row - and help themselfs and other - all of a sudden are less. The introduction of the motorboat wouldn’t leave the rowing boat preferers without effect.

With other words, by “forcing” people to interact to create groups, it helps the whole system. If people cant skip this part, it will obvious have negative effects for the people outside the system- who now have a much smaller pool to draw from.

This argument is made often, but it’s a bad argument, because it basically boils down to one truth. You just want to hold everybody back, just so you can continue rowing your boat. Even if those people don’t have fun rowing a boat and just do it out of necessity.

That being said. It can still work, because a lot of people have a very strong opinion on the RDF or the motor boat in your metaphor. Those people will avoid the motor boat at all cost and you will still have people to pick from in order to row your boat over the river. Will it be a smaller pool than now? Yes it will. But if you consider that it’s impossible for people now to row their boat over the river, because they lack the time or in their city there are only few people interested in rowing and even less captains and those few only ever pick the strongest people to row, so the ones, they think are weak will get left out.
Which results in people just standing on the riverbank for hours asking passersby to row with them and still only manage to fill 4/5 seats at max with no captain found. Which results in wasted time, because they couldn’t do anything else while begging passersby to row with them and in the end they didn’t even get to the other side.

So the motor boat is a great solution. The ones that like to row or just hate motorboats still can row. They are not forced to use the motorboat and they will have a pool of like minded to row with them.
It could result for them in the same problems, that others experience now, that they won’t be able to fill a boat because they lack people. But then they still could use the motorboat to get to the other side.
So they do have a chance to cross the river, even if they don’t like the vehicle, whereas without the motorboat the others have no chance to cross the river.