Classic : easy, unfair, boring

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I had a blast on release, but now my nostalgia is gone and I login only for raids and I’ll go casual.

The “fresh” release was really nice, but since the week 2 of PvP release and then BWL release, you can feel the void of soul in Classic.

  1. Classic is full of bot and Blizzard do nothing (/who Stratholme).
  2. Lot of players cheated in Alterac Valley with anti-AFK macro to get easy R11 before pushing to R14 on my server, Blizzard did nothing and banned only a small fraction of them.
  3. Classic raid are badly designed, easy, uncompetitive. The only thing that people want is either speedrun who require a huge amount of Warrior/Rogue, zero diversity (every top server guilds do the same thing), or just log parse.
  4. Raid are so easy that people can buy loot in any raids with GDKP PUG.
  5. Everyone is a clone because raid are to easy, legendary are like epic.
  6. 40 raids are a chore to organize and there’s no renew of Classic population, in practice there’s more leaver than newcomers.
  7. Healer is a horrible role to play in raid, with good players in your raid there’s nothing to do. You spam /stopcasting and try to snipe others healers. There’s no raid wide damage that require huge amount of heal, no fun encounter, exception is Vael with a fight duration of 25-30s …
  8. There’s no difference between a good player and a very good player. Any normal person can do 99 parse in Classic, rotation and gameplay is to basic to create a large difference between a good player and a very good player.
  9. The only thing that matter to parse in raid is world buff and your luck. You can play a well geared caster and have resist / no crit (even with full world buff), while a less geared caster can do a better job with less resist and more crit. It’s only about luck. There’s a room for optimization, but it’s to marginal. Time to kill is to low to create a difference for lot of class.
  10. World Buff ceremony before each raids is horrible and create frustration.
  11. Mage boosting & chinese bots farmer destroyed economy and low level social interaction in dungeons to make friends. 25% of my friends list login everyday on Mage alt to boost players in Zul Gurub to get golds for TBC or to buy gear in GDKP pugs.
  12. Being forced to login and use a bot to sit in city otherwise you end up in a 2 hours queue time is a shame.
  13. Battlegrounds are for premade only and Alterac Valley 1.12 is a joke. Wargame proved that Blizzard focus is exclusive in premade, they don’t care about solo queue.
  14. Faction unbalance will never be solved and will be a disaster in futur with TBC.

Positive point ? Discord server community, reddit, forums, the release, the first week of PvP with Hillsbrad Battle, the leveling experience, the drama, the first months when you raids, the gold farm before pre-Mage boosting era, the adrenaline when you do a well speedrun, and the better social experience in guilds if you compare with Retail.

But honestly, it’s not a game for me. It’s a good game when player discover it, but if everyone know everything, it’s not the same. Good luck all for AQ, Naxx, and TBC.

See you in Shadowlands :slight_smile: .

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See you in TBC.

90% of what you said here will be fixed during TBC.

Shadowlands ? It’s totally not the same game for a big part of the classic playerbase . They may just play it for few weeks before realizing again : it’s just not a MMORPG anymore.

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classic is a minmaxed to hell super casual MMO. probably wanna try retail if you want difficult content.

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Ya retail is super hard, playing a DH is the peak of skill.

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seems you find out the light

see you in Shadowlands

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I hate to admit it, but you are right about many of these things - classic has the potential to be a great game, but the 2019+ community is easily exploiting the game and ruining the experience for a lot of people.

TBC will probably go the same path; although this time there will be much less hype.

Shadowlands will definitely be fun the first 1-2 months because there will be new stuff to explore, but after that, I have no idea. I doubt Blizz will put enough effort in either of the games.

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What you are doing is looking back in hindsight.
Classic was in it’s creation close to 20 years ago.

Chew on that a bit.

Chew on that a bit more please.

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You were expecting too much from an old-skool game.

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What makes it not a mmorpg exactly?

You’re still in a massive world with massive amounts of players :slight_smile:

Yeah, it’s kinda why I’m too lazy to level an alt… it’s boring to level alone and 99% of people who are leveling an alt are just getting boosted.

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We TOLD YOU you would not like Vanilla.

But NOOOOO, you just HAD to come here and clog our servers and create queues just because.

Just stay in refail and never come back. You could never play anything with more depth than KF Pandas, Pokemon, Foxes, LFR, Homogenization and Xmog.

Both us and Brack told you, you just couldn’t listen.

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yeh because wanding mobs to death and taping down ur frostbolt / shadowbolt key is so much harder.

you’d have to be pretty delusional to think retail pve isnt hard in comparison to what classic has to offer.

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Every single multiplayer game ever created. Bots and automation of everything is ALWAYS a thing.

Cheated? Did you play at least 16 hours a day for a couple of brackets? Or did you queue 3 times a week?

This game was designed to be a casual MMO. All PvE is easy. What were you expecting for a casual game?

And you were expecting a casual game from 2004 to have hundreds of millions of players in 2020?

Yeah there is, but it only shows in top tier PvP (which doesn’t exist in Classic) or artificial pointless challenges… like get to 60 the fastest, or clear the raid the fastest etc.

Hey, hey. Some people were playing mages since 1408 and will play them forever. Like me. Has absolutely nothing to do with aoe farm, raid dps, etc. We just love complicated PvP.

Play on a better realm. Without queues.

Yeah, except for the fact, that you can play solo and rank up. The keyword here being: PLAY. Grind the honor and you’ll rank up.

Faction imbalance is completely irrelevant in TBC and other expansions, because there are more BGs and Arena exists. Who even cares about the amount of players in the factions?

Hahahahahaha. You just listed some cancer here.

Yeah, I kinda thought that… Seems like you are not willing to invest the amount of time the game requires to get to the higher ranks, etc.

No, we won’t. I mean, the only way we’ll get into the Shadowlands is IF it’ll be like TBC or early WoTLK. Anything a tiny bit worse than that is not even worth buying. We’ll get our TBC and WoTLK anyway.

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i wonder what u will say about shadowlands tho xD

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They gave us the last patch of vanilla before TBC, which is a kind of catch-up patch for TBC. You gotta deal with it or quit.

Classic is not Vanilla and that sucks, but it’s still million times better than everything after WotLK.

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Some people thought they did, but they didn’t :shushing_face:

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Classic unfriendly? you must be blind.

In classic its normal to have a guy with blue and sometimes with few green join your raid.

Meanwhile in retail you have to deal with Raidio zealots and other RNG systems implemented within the game that renders your class unplayable unless you farm for straight 4 month before even beginning to play the game.

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Who cares about PvE difficulty? All PvE in wow is super easy. Always has been

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15-13 years ago maybe and we saw it with classic

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just me and 99% of the playerbase cares about pve i guess.

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I wouldn’t say you’re entirely wrong, since people, who truly cared about PvP left long ago. So, yeah, out of 1000 current retail subs (yeah I’m saying a false number on purpose) 999 probably do care about PvE the most. :slightly_smiling_face:

Out of 12 mil. and 10 mil (when it flatlined more or less) about 9 mil were caring about a decent game in general. Esp the decent PvP. If it wouldn’t be for the Classic release, the numbers of subs would have stayed under 1 mil. :grinning:

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