They will not bring MoS back cuz blizzard losing money from your 2 sub account to get wcb . If they add MoS to the game, ppl cancel their 2 accounts, and horde wcb sellers cancel their subs aswell , and losing potential gold buyers which is not good for blizzard and their bot farm friends
Some may laugh, but your logic describes how the business works most of the time.
Edit: I wanted to add that it is the same with banning bots. In businessâs eyes they are subscribers.
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Removing the best change MoS and not reversing the changes u made is so stupid ngl
Logoutskips Stupid guild UI etc . MoS is a good change going to barrens and just Paying for rend is ok ? supporting goldbuyers
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Nonsensical comparison.
What has wasting rl-money for NFTs (Mounts, âŚ) to do with saving buffs for ingame-currency?
You sound like the typical hard minded hater because of⌠âreasonsâ only you understand. Like a cat playing a game only she gets the point of.
As I said before . You are already brainwashed by blizzard. Whatever blizzard will do , you will support them . You lack critical thinking . Thats why Wotlk classic had wow tokensâŚ
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Thats what i mean. Blizzard only adds changes , from which they 100 % benefit. Blizzard does not care about QoL changes for players, they care about QoL changes for bots, and gdkp players. And leaves useless changes like ui guild tab change. If blizzard adds MoS to alience, blizzards losing extra money subs from their 2 accounts to get wcb horde. Also mos removal supports horde wcb sellers as well, and supports gold selling and gold buying as well. Just think about it for a second.
Basicly its not benefitial for blizzard at all.
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Its true. You can even get permabanned from killing bots. Thats what happend to Payo (streamer). He killed bots, they abused auto report ban system. Blizzard knows it thats why they ignore this problem. They support bots farms cuz its free sub $
Who forces the alliance?
Why donât you play horde? They have Rend, are they more competitive?
Why not get a Blessing of Windfury for the paladins too?
20, twenty years of Vanilla without MoS, and this is such a big deal. Difficult to understand.
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Agree. MoS alredy here , in SoD. Classic era is not server for testing and wahatever bs like chronoboons. Classic era must be 100% identilcal to Vanilla 2004
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Yea
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Remove chronoboons. Berny lived 5 phases without the boons, as do all else.
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Depends on what you mean by force I guess. If itâs in the meaning of do it or die, thereâs no force at all. If you take it for comparison reasons, as heâs saying, like competetive gameplay then you are indeed forced to. Another way of not making it competitive could be removing all logs from warcraftlogs if anyone at any time has the Rend buff. Thatâs both alliance AND horde btw.
People have different reason for not playing horde. Iâve tried 2 times leveling and playing in the community. 1 level 55 and 1 level 60, latest being about 1 year ago. Both times ended with the same result and that is I didnât fit in. About 80% of the people I met were not at all nice and the 20% that I found to be adequate werenât in a single guild but rather scattered across the lands. A lot of horde seemed to want to grief and if you didnât want to join in on that you were ostracized and blacklisted.
Blessing of Windfury would be a new thing that isnât in the game and has never been in the game. If it makes you feel better the MoS buff can just be renamed WCB (as thatâs what it is) and nothing is really added as a new thing. The big problem is the raidlogging. Itâs bad and people that like chronoboons understand that. We had the same discussion back then with the same arguments but fortunately we got to keep the chronoboon. Would have been lovely with all the more life, had we gotten MoS, but alas the life of the server was only for a week and now itâs back to raidlogging meaning less pvp, less competition and less fun for almost everyone.
Itâs no secret alliance have always wanted the buff. 17 years of them not listening and lacking communication, most people had just given up, thatâs all. We just saw small changes that was mostly appreciated. Thing is, the people against MoS made it a big deal by demanding it reverted. Which for the 80-90% that liked the new changes is difficult to understand. Itâs just different views.
So again, it might be best to create one server people can transfer to (free) which has everything as it was when TBC/ERA split happened. And let Firemaw change as it always has and give us MoS back. I canât see any downside to everyone getting what they wanted. You?
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Dude, stop. Please, stop being so mad selfish about WCB when it has 0 purpose and has 0 business working at Allianceâs side.
First of all, the authenticity of WCB belongs to The Horde since day 1. (2004) Not Alliance
Second of all, you picked Alliance, we The Horde did not force you.
Last and third, yaâll should be more than happy that you can actually grab it by getting mind controlled in a Territory of the Horde. (Yaâll should be gratefull for this actually).
So again, stop being mad selfish about WCB.
You must be one of the horde I had the unfortunate misfortune of meeting during my playing on the horde faction 
While I donât think it is selfish to want more gameplay for the vast majority of players, weâll simply have to disagree as again, these are different points of view.
First of all MoS belongs to the alliance since 2024. Not horde. Why this is pointed out I donât really get but itâs the same argument so works both ways. Unless you refer to the merit of things in which case this is a hole other story and MoS is the least we should be talking about.
Second of all, noone is saying we were forced into a faction. Noone forced you to choose era and noone forced you to revert the changes. This kind of argument doesnât have a place in this discussion.
Third, we shouldnât be happy, no. We can and have accepted it for many years. MoS made us happy. It made the majority happy. Thatâs why the subject is getting so much talk, you know? Again, we shouldnât be grateful. Had that not been a posibility there is no way it would have been part of the logs and so it wouldnât be competetive to use, so basicly noone would use it because it would invalidate the logs. Weâve seen this with other buffs, hence my earlier comment on it.
I know you are very emotional about this, or at least so it reads, but we are having different views here. Youâd have to agree that calling me selfish while you and your whole faction is gatekeeping a buff is rediculous, right?
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Authenticity, what are you talking about? Both sides can get it, both sides do get it, since forever. Only for alliance itâs a nightmare, depending on horde pops and being tracked down by griefers. And you can understand perfectly well why it would suck to not get it when itâs become, and long been, the meta for alliance PvE.
So now itâs back to The Barrens, spending time waiting and hoping to not get griefed. That is the reality for many and the reversion caters only to griefers.
Itâs fine that you and non-active players want to hide behind âno changes, this is how itâs always beenâ, but the reality is that this gift and takeback has been a blow to the morale of most active players on Era.
Itâs the greatest game of all time. It has imperfections. In its current state, for many players, the WCB meta is 99% of that imperfection. It sucks so much.
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Blizz dont catter to griefers. They catter for $.
If blizz add MoS to the game, they lose money from ppl that use 2 acc to get rend and horde that selling wcb services for gold which keeps rmt activities ingame
For the long-term health of the game, it is glaringly obvious that the WCB meta should be fixed. Itâs terrible. People are tired of it, and this latest switcheroo where we were shown how good it could be, was the last straw for many. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory indeed.
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You are right but blizz dont benefit from these changes. Blizz wants to max profits but same time do nothing. If blizz actualy care, they would delete this bug lomg time ago, but they didnt cuz its $
Sadly ppl dont get it. The reason why these changes appeared in first place are the changes that were made before. These are chronoboons, and pvp rank system change. List can go on
Sadly is not that. Sad is that people are exactly like retail andies. Every time they call for changes and when it happens, next andy realize there can be another change implemented into game becuase someone cried out hard for previous change.
So we end in retail stupid changes fixing results of previous changes.
There is zero logic behind changes implemented into ERA. Becuase if you love Qol and feautures of retail or SOD you just play retail and SOD and do touch ERA.
What else is left for those who want play classic closest experience game? Private servers. The same servers which were being forced down so Classic 2019 happend.
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