great convo. I canât argue with your logic
The entire point of my argument is that everyone starts at the same time. Nothing else.
âGatekeepingâ seems to be a word some people use when they get denied their âwell earned rewardâ for nothing that was promised.
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The issue is not gatekeeping but lack of previous warning. Its the same as somebody organizes a âvoluntary, for funâ marathon and then when the marathon is about to be finished - âoh and btw, we will also reward a million euros for everyone who participated todayâ which will 100% feel unfair and even lied to people who did not participate.
If Blizzard said at the beginning - all earned classic rewards will be linked to retail. Then sure, equal rules, everyone starts on even footing. If somebody did not participate then thats on themâŚbut as you can see in this scenario its not the case. People who did not participate, feel like there were lied to and tricked and they would have participated IF they knew that the rewards will get linked.
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WoW classic were released 2019. Its 2025 now. Soon that would be 6 years of time people could have then spent farming in classic if that were the case.
Thats alot of time wasted for people who feel like I do if so.
Also why I argued for if they wanted to do it, they should create a new server for it moving forward. Equal footing and a promise on that server to be linked to retail.
Or just make an actual event and things on retail for it. 
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Blizzard stated they would never merge the 2, but now they are asking about it thus going back on there word.
If people had known back then this might happen they would have played both, thats all that is being said not hard to fathom really.
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Why would classic players ever want to play Retail?
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I get that, lol. I am fine with it as long as they give us a chance to earn those rewards in fresh classic realms.
Steelmanning the Blizzard side of things, Iâd say that if youâre conducting a survey, and the purpose is to know what your players want, then you have to include all the likely options they might individually want â even if some of the possibilities are ones you donât want to explore, do, or pursue in the game â because how else can you know what your players want?
In short; letâs say Iâm conducting a survey to find out what your favorite food is and I ask you the following:
Whatâs your favorite food?
- Sand
- Mud
- Baboon
Thatâs not a very good survey, because it doesnât provide many choices, and the choices it does provide are quite unlikely.
A good survey will include the most likely choices and an âotherâ field where people can write if their answer isnât listed.
I think Blizzard are conducting pretty good surveys, all things considered.
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It ainât classic anymore anyway, but they play.
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With that logic, you wouldnât mind if the moment the classic accounts merge into retail, all the before limited rewards get put into the Trade Post.
Everything.
True
However imo Iâll prob play upto Legion then thats where the expansions came along i no longer enjoyed.
Legion was the last great expansion
But still if they do move toons into retail, thereâs still Era 
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In reality this is the case;
Most retail players donât want this because they will use the excuse âI couldâve earned if I knew earlierââŚ
Most classic players will want this because they can transfer there items to retailâŚ.
There is no real winâŚ
I have only played a limited bit of classic and am only playing it again to get a couple of the CM sets I misssed during MoP (specifically paladin and druid), Iâd be happy to pay ÂŁ20,30,40 to transfer them characters across to use the transmog⌠before anyone asks - YES I missed out on Corrupted in classic, but honestly I would be OK with saying I missed it as I knew I could obtain it in classic but I was too lazy and couldnât be bothered and in that case, I donât think I have the right to complain I didnât get it (nor do I deserve it)âŚ.
I think they could release season of discovery for different expansion and give the option for players to earn old items and transfer them chars across so others can obtain it, as long as the difficult of obtaining said items are tuned so they are difficult to get, they should be roughly obtainable by 1% if not less of the player base so that they continue to feel ârareââŚ
Iâd actually be okay with all the classic players coming over with there corrupted ash bringers because NOT that many have it, I think retail players assume all classic players have the sword when they really donâtâŚ
Once again I am a retail player with only a very very small amount of time in classic maybe about 1-2 weeks total across all chars⌠I think transferring is a good and healthy thing for the community and to help retail players get into classic, as well as getting classic players into retailâŚ
I literally have friends who wonât play wow cause the items they like specifically challenge mode gear is unobtainable and itâs what they class as the âbest armour in the gameâ, they are debating classic currently but they donât see the point as they canât take it to what they think is the âimportantâ game, which I can kind of understand.
TLDR;
I think the transfer option is a great money maker for blizzard as well as being healthy overall for the game, it will get retail players grinding classic for the items (they must remain a GRIND to obtain) and it will get classic players (hopefully playing retail) as they have nice unique/rare items to show off and feel âcoolâ.
Good transmog = good damage⌠right?
No they were told no merge was going to happen
So that blowâs your whole post out of the water.
I am confused what you mean by my whole post out the water?
My post was more of a discussion about the proâs cons and my opinion of it potentially allowing transfers.
The post you linked is also 7 years old??? They also clearly state âI donât think there is any need to change that stanceâ, this implies that there could be a need to transfer in the futureâŚ
âI think its fair to ask for an opportunity to earn those rewards again however I donât think it should come at the cost of diminishing the rewards that players earned years ago and cherish.â Anyone could argue, just because someone got it in classic or retail 20 years ago is there any less of an achievement in someoneâs time being spent to grind out these really good rewards, I personally donât think so.
I have the challenge mode sets, and I personally think others should be able to obtain them if they want them, maybe via the crafting method like they did for Naxx.
Once again they state this âItâs a pretty solid philosophy at the moment that there will be zero crossover of rewards.â, with once again key words being âat the momentâ.
There is many many many things Blizzard has gone back on⌠Classic as a whole was a thing they went back on. âyou think you want it but you donâtâ is still a literal meme from it.
The auction house mount for 5 mill once again, there wonât be anything like this again meanwhile you could buy one for ÂŁ60 several years later.
So let me say/quote one last thing - âSo that blowâs your whole post out of the water.â - Alaric Aug 2025
I just dont think you are being fair trying to say retail players are going to use âexcusesâ that a dishonest take on it when told this would not happen.
No as the sets cost a min of nearly 3mi gold
I have 3 of the MoP sets and the WoD weapons and dont care that others can get them but to tell players there would be no cross so some did not do it is not an excuseâŚ
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Can someone explain to me why this upsets retail players? Doesnât everything become useless after each season and you can get tons of stuff as transmogs that you could want.
Whatâs special about some classic stuff?
And about discontinued stuff , isnât it the same as someone who played 15-20 years ago? People who played that long would be in their 30s-50s by now which makes me wonder why they would even care that much either.
So what kind of player is actually pissed about this?
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- Told it would never happen.
- The feel of massive amount of wasted time. 6 years my dude. Its also why the argument if they wanted to do it, it should be new servers for it or something inside retail. Everyone starting at the same time, not someone having 6 years ahead of you because of a broken promise.
While it might not feel like it for you, to me, it would feel like im getting the middle finger from blizzard.
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If they did this WITH a commitment to putting an end to silly fomo and re-releating mage tower appearences, mop CM sets, WOD CM weapons, and a way to farm all this other crap on retail, then sure, Iâm down.
But âsorry you missed outâ would be a massively stupid decision, I was level 60 within 2 weeks of classic drop, but I quit like 2 months in, because it was boring.
If I had known I could bring Atiesh back with me, or other dumb old items, I wouldnât have quit.
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I see only positives there, and I do think itâs good for classic and retail, if it ends after MoP, so the playerbase isnât too fragmented. Letting them bring old rewards is okay, because they played the content as close as possible to how it actually was, and if they didnât know, theyâd come to retail eventually, itâs even better, because it means they played classic for intrinsic fun. Making a wod classic, where they âfinishâ the expansion, sounds like a waste of ressources. If they wanna finish WoD, better to just add it to a retail season at some point. For Legion, Remix is a better format anyway.
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How does this waste 6 years of retail players? I donât get it. Iâve played retail on and off, if a bunch of classic transfers move over I wouldnât notice a thing.
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