Who exactly would boost you on new servers? I dont understand that argument tbh. Anyway, altough I think it would be nice, new servers aint gonna happen. They dont want classic players to be into fresh starts when retail expansion is around the corner. And from what i ve heard shadowlands is designed to atract classic players
Shadowlands looks dogshiet to me tbh, itâs the first expansion ever i havenât pre ordered, and as a classic player I seriously doubt i will buy it. If fresh servers dont come, then i will stay unsubbed until TBC
The same players who are doing it now, you donât honestly think they wont migrate to the new servers and carry on? And in doing so, reducing the number of players on the original incarnation. In the end you wonât have enough players in either game.
Old dies while fresh gets nearly all attention. Every realm has an expiration date
But is âallâ the attention going to be enough second time around, I know for one I wonât be doing it again, and in the end the main fear is more dead realms and not enough players to make it all worthwhile.
All âvery activeâ players will. Those that want to level in organic way already want it. Raiders, gold makers, dungeoners etc. after naxx will think whatâs next and reroll to something else and start again, some âcasualsâ will follow and so on.
If there wonât be TBC transition there will be close to no reasons to play after you clear Naxx or after you get your dream speedrun score etc. And if you are not raiding there will be even less incentives after the Naxx event ends. Levelers already lost them.
Some will stay and it should work in a way that when the âfreshâ finishes progression itâs merged to âoldâ and new fresh starts in an endless cycle. So that so you donât loose any toons and with time on the âoldâ you will have all of your progressed toons. Every existing realm would have âoldâ and âfreshâ variants.
In case of WoTLK some pservers do it even with 2x faster content progression and 2x shorter raid resets. For Fresh Classic quickened content progression could something to look at. You would have a year to level a toon and have fun with it or level and raid depending on interests. If you are a leveler then leveling never dies until near the end and raiders have things to do as well.
Have you spoken to all these âvery activeâ players to produce and confirm that statement? And do you think Blizzard will be prepared to take that chance, especially with the state of the current servers?
Nope donât think so personally.
There is more than just you, you and you.
When Classic was announced I went to check vanilla out on K2. It was old realm and got flooded by people like me. Few months after their Fresh launched - K3. When that happened K2 quickly died below 100 active players, while K3 started with 6K peak. Same thing happened with LH realms and their fresh.
Aside of that Blizzard talked with nostalrius people and asked how they managed the community and game. When Classic was soon to launch a lot of the interviews were done by ex-pserver players and a lot of feedback came from them (like Blizzard changing 4p to 6p content progression etc). They are aware of FRESH. It doesnât imply it will happen exactly as on private servers but can if they for example move existing realms to TBC or more and more people will ask for it.
And as you can see people are already asking for fresh. Vanilla gets very stale at the end.
Can you drop this argument already? People love fresh.
Want proof?
Go look at how all the classic pserver community thrived for years.
They never learn⌠theyâre so full of themselves thinking âme me meâ âIâm right, I know best, this bad this good so everyone must think that tooâ. On that note, canât wait for fresh realms.
As one of my co posters likes to say, âthat is such a strawman argumentâ
Which quickly becomes stale. Then the vicious cycle starts again, in six months the âI want fresh serversâ brigade start up again. New realms are not the answer, those players sorting out why they want fresh servers should be.
In all these threads I donât think I have seen anyone give a real and valid reason why we should have fresh realms. All I can see is âwe want to level with other peopleâ.
Itâs not a vicious cycle if you like fresh
If course it is, you are just too stubborn to see it.
Get a fresh realm, get so far, want more fresh realms.
Get a fresh realm, get so far, want more fresh realms.
Get a fresh realm, get so far, want more fresh realms.
Get a fresh realm, get so far, want more fresh realms.
What needs to figured out is WHY people want fresh realms. After all we had fresh realms a year ago.
Nope itâs just fun with fresh realms
Fun how?
Honestly, I am trying to figure it out, so if you could enlighten me.
Everyone starts fresh from scratch, loads of low level world pvp.
To me starting over on fresh in classic would be more exciting than shadowlands.
I see that as hell and only happening for the first month. What about PvE players?
Yeah well you can just keep playing on your already existing server:)
PvE players get the chance to reroll a new main, maybe different faction. Whatever.
Fresh server is very fun, dunno why youre salty
I am trying to figure out why people think itâs fun. I remember the hundreds of complaints when Phase two arrived on PvP realms. Maybe even thousands on the forums.
Well some people mightâve complained, i for one loved it and im missing it. (Actually i think a fresh server, which launches with the honor system active is the most fun)
The best thing they could do imo is what untill 1-2 months after naxx. Then they could release a set of fresh servers after that.
The world is just more alive in the first 6 months of a fresh server, which is the best experience wow can bring.