Before the Season started I didn’t want Cloak in the game, because I thought it’d be way too broken for Classic.
Seeing though how the devs brought in absolutely busted abilities like Dispersion, while also giving multiple classes more DoTs and tools in general to prevent Rogue Stealth mechanics, I think getting Cloak is going to be pretty much mandatory going forward.
Things like Fairy Fire completely negating your class mechanics for an extended period of time just feels so troll.
Could it be ? Sure. I still would not believe everything datamine’d, especially if we are thinking of the datamined sets that came out mid p1.
There is not a snowballs chance in Hades that the SoD team has the budget and resources to develop things multiple phases in advance. Zero chance. So what will any of the set bonuses look like ? If I had to guess get rdy for more +200 Armor and 1% Dodge bs.
So Druids should get Cloak too ? Since your complaint is regarding Stealth, and not Rogues ? Ehh… some of you guys… no amount of power will help. If you cant get the job done with the insane amount of tools Rogues have atm ? Its not a toolkit issue, and you are not suppose to be immune and negate everything in the game.
Yeah give me windfury and combat ress. You can have cloak on A 5 min cd
Sure, if the argument was “We have the same tools”. Sadly not the case, Rogue control is bar none, and Feral control is non existent. So you can see why your argument is flawed.
On top, you are asking for a Defensive PvP Ability and then comparing it to an Offensive Ability and a PvE Utility Spell. I understand you cant really compare it to a defensive spell, since Feral has none, unlike Evasion, Vanish, Gauge etc ? (See my point?).
M8 my point is 1 farie fire or any dot. Makes most of my cds non existant. We got no way to reset. And you as A feral know how it goes. The second you open on something in A bg , best case scenario is that you Get the kill and die or you just die
If you see the bis dagger options and their procs it feels like A troll from the devs
Cloak is an INSANE defensive. The ones you mentioned will barely let you survive a rogue opening on you… Giving rogues cloak will kill SoD. It would kill wpvp, bgs and “tournaments”. Like if tournaments is a thing anyways lol.
Rogues are INSANE for pvp already. It’s THE pvp class… Stunlocking is their biggest defensive. I would trade survival of the fittest for the stunlocking toolkit any day
rogue without cloak is unplayable mate. try one for yourself in group pvp. 1 dot of any kind and youre done for. Rogue is extremely squishy… one swap on a rogue and its dead
Also try stacking only rogues in bgs. the more rogues you have in your team, the more chance of losing the game. Rogues are near useless for group pvp
don’t bother arguing with Justdont/gharukk/loktharen, literally all of them are better off in PvE where they can compare their parses towards PvP players where parses dont change the fact that rogue mutilate is busted. adding CoS will make rogue even more broken.
Oh, they are 100% wrong. No questions. Rogues are monsters. But like I said, to be able to do anything outside of 1v1, you actually need to be good, its not a rampage machine like Ret or Enha or War is where you go from one target to the next, its two different designs.
But I still think Blizzard will actually give them cloak later on, it wont really help those who think Rogues are weak now, but the amazing Rogues will break everything around them.
i just pray if they add CoS, its a glove slot just to mess with rogues LMFAO.
If it went on gloves you just got slaughter and backstab newbs
Are you braindead? sorry for saying like this… I stunlock one meanwhile other 2 from 30yard range cast 3 instant spells and my health is almost gone, cant vanish or do anything. worst case enemy uses trinket and breaks my stunlock.
stunlock can be broken with rank 5 trinket, can be prevented with FAP, dmg received can be lowered with proper items focused on armor and stam, buffs, etc… how do you lower spell damage? Potions? Should i drink 4 types of potions after every death and wait one by one on each cooldown so 8 minutes I will just stand in GY while I get my potions up?
Not to speak I stunned mage for 4 seconds (cheapshot) and he blinked away in 1 second not even using trinket, wtf?
There was a guy (i am not watchin tournamets) but he said that no tournaments in sod and classic were won by rogues. Are there really that monsters?
Honestly, I prefer that over Mutilate clowns.
I stopped taking any of his posts seriously when he uploaded this before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-haTcw-cPo
Bro basically playing like a bot, i ain’t gonna listen to what he has to say on pvp balance lol
just click that, most rogues on the forums literally suffer from skill issue, it’s hilarious.
And rogue with cloak makes the game unplayable for everyone else
Ok, does that mean Rogues are bad ? I guarantee most tournaments were won by Warlocks and Mages. Does not mean others cant compete or are bad for pvp.
Imo, the only problem Rogues have is what they bring for PvE. If they were in the top 2-3 on dps ? That be value, or if they were bringing a buff/debuff. But for PvP ? Imo Rogues are not just good, but amazing when played proper.
Rogues are not meant for toe to toe fights. It’s more about guerilla fighting. Bgs are about tealpoay with a diverse group of classes.
Any fotm roller who jumps into a clash of ppl and expects to survive is doing it wrong…
Those fotm ppl shouldn’t be able to cry into getting cloak…
I know how to play rogue and am not a fotm roller. I know exactly how to play and that is not toe to toe. I use my toolkit perfectly. Been paying since februari 2006 with multiple glad titles. I’m not a newbie
Anyway when you get faeri fired by a druid you can’t use half of your toolkit anymore and if you haven’t noticed, there are many druids running around now.
And my complaints are about group pvp, as I mentioned before and that’s what matters most in pvp. If your team ain’t dominating, you won’t do much as a rogue in a group fight. 1 swap on the rogue and the rogue is dead. Doesn’t matter if I open with 1 sap into cheap on another and a third I blind or even pop pre evasion everyone has trinket now or most priests have stoneform to get out of it (I play horde) It’s very easy to shut down a rogue in group pvp fight. I cannot carry the fight unlike a mage or any ranged who has minimal chance of getting stomped to the ground instantly when showing himself
Cloak is very much needed to stop the instant stomping when getting out of stealth or to be able to even even use half of my toolkit which is impossible once faeri fired. Resetting is important for rogues
Try playing a rogue yourself, you’ll see how everyone will focus you instantly and dot you asap