Completely unplayable game

May I ask what class/spec you are playing?

Listen, I understand that some people have ā€¦different tastes, but I will say it again : Wotlk, as a whole, based on peopleā€™s vote , is the best. Literally.

I donā€™t care that you think it was overhyped, or that you donā€™t like it, etc. You are in the minority. Period. Wotlk is the best x-pac.

Is like The Matrix. First is the best , and the last is the worst. Maybe you didnā€™t liked first, but you did liked the last. Is useless. You are in the minority. Get used with.

Is OK to say : While Wotlk was the best x-pac based on popularity, for me it wasnā€™t.

Simple!

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I donā€™t know man.
Naxx 2.0 was kinda meh. When you water down difficulty so much, it becomes a chore to clear it every week
TOGC was one of the if not the worse tier in wow history
Malygos is so so, forgetable
Ulduar ICC sartha and ruby sanctum were great raid
The dungeons were too massively undertuned, far too easy, boring AOE fest.

Wrath was hit and miss, same as cata if you ask me.
TBC shines well above those 2

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No wotlk is literally overhyped because of arthas. the raid werenā€™t that good and Ulduar was simply the ā€œbestā€ because at the time raids such as Nighthold or blackrock foundry didnā€™t exist back in the days. pvp is better in Cata and pandaria. wotlk is not as good as you remember

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Learn to play your class

I literally played Wotlk Classic from start to finish with some breaks and ā€¦ I canā€™t remember it? Wtf ?!

Again, I donā€™t care what your personal believes are. Wotlk is the best based on popular votes. Is fine to be in the ā€¦ 20% or whatever % who believes otherwise.

Cata on the other hand, is one of the worst, after the 3 trio : BfA, Shadowlands and Little Dragons which this 3 are the worst ever. I think, statistically speaking and not only ā€¦ only WOD is worst than Cataclysm.

Deal with it.

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Back in the days because of arthas. But now you are in the minority to think wotlk aged well.

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What an idiotic type of mentality you have there. Back in the days? Wtf is that suppose to mean ? If you see a movie for the first time 20 years ago, it might not be the same movie if you watch it again , today.

But the movie still remains as is.

Same with Wotlk. And saying is because of Arthas is ā€¦idiocracy.

But hey! Go play Cata. In max 2 months, youā€™ll beg for servers merge. At launch I saw max 2 layers. 2 layers LOL. In Wotlk Classic there were 9-10 layers at launch and it kept 2-5 across the entire expansion.

There is a post on reddit, where it compare the population from warcraft logs. Even TBC was higher than Cata.

So yea, but no! Cata is a bad expansion. Enjoy it anyway ā€¦

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doubt i play on firemaw. and the first two phases from cata seems to be pretty good. maybe it will die in phase 3

Imagine taking reddit as a source

Thanks but it appears you have a problem with it when people enjoy cata.

PS: wotlk era is a bad idea because it splits the players even further, wotlk was already pretty dead during it last months, wotlk era wouldnā€™t survive for long.

LOL. So you say warcraft logs as a source is not good? Gtfo ā€¦

No! I told you above that , fine ā€¦ go and enjoy it. Literally is what I said. What you donā€™t seems to understand is that Cata is a bad expansionā€¦as a whole.

Phase 2? Is Cata already in Phase 2? :))))

Dude, do you even WoW?

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Phase2 is firelands. which is according to the people iā€™m playing even better than phase1 which has already pretty good raids.

But this is just your opinion to, theres no votes that says this.
You cry on people who say Wotlk was bad ā€œjust your opinion!!!ā€
But then you share your own as a fact.

Cata peaked on playerbase, but was also the first time Blizz lost subs instead of gaining more than they currently had. Theres plenty of reasons why this could be the case. If you only look within Wow, youā€™re horribly close minded. Multiple other games released , other mmorpgs started taking room in the environment aswell. If ffxiv, ESO, gw2 existed during wrath, would it also gained as many subs as it did? If there were bad tiers, think blizz would still retain its playerbase? Like during togc. Or would they leave for these others?

Catas biggest issue was the bugs it was plagued with on launch. Not so much its own content.

But Wrath was HEAVILY carried by Arthas. If wc3 didnā€™t exist, I donā€™t think wrath would have gotten as much recognition as it did. There was no Deathwing in Wc3. If there was & he had a long back story, things would probably have looked different.

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Well kinda ye. People pad the shiet out of their parses.
For example if you look at my Chim HC, youā€™d think i was the worst player in Wow.
But no, iā€™m tanking the normal hits in blood presence, iā€™m loosing about 7k dps with this. While in Unholy specc.

It can get you a general idea, but itā€™s not like nr 1 is the greatest of all time & top 1k is the worst. You can delay phase switching, pad buffs, Dark intent, PI, T&T etc.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/world-of-warcraft-cataclysm/user-reviews/?platform=pc

ā€¦incoming : ā€œBUT!!! Metacritics iz not fair!!!ā€

Of course it peaked, thanks to the success of Wotlk. People though that Cata will be at least the same, and (re) subscribed en-masses ā€¦ only to find out that it is poopoo. This are facts, as you also stated.

Nope! Just one : Cata Bad

Another one believing that an entire expansion was played, voted and cataloged as the bestā€¦because 1 main character. Facepalm. We are talking about games, not movies.

Wtf ?

I was talking about how many were Raiding in TBC, Wotlk and Cataclysm.

Hey dudes, serious. Go play Cata, is fine! LOL ā€¦

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/2nbqau/wow_subscriber_numbers_by_expac_in_millions/#lightbox

In half a year, Cata subs have gone almost as worst as in the worst period of Wotlk. In 9 months, already was worst then any day in Wotlk. In 1 year it was almost the same as it was in TBC.

So yea! There goes your ā€¦expansion LOL ā€¦

Many of those votes are in 2023, they didnā€™t even lock it for the years it was out.
Just look at the top 10, 2 of them are 0s with ā€œCata sucksā€ in 2022. We donā€™t even know if the guy played Cata. Yes that website is 100% invalidated for that reason.

You did not respond to a single thing i said in that quote.
Youā€™re not a respectable person at all. Just spouting the same nonsense.

If your IQ is room temperature, probably.

Yes. It had 1.5 videogames dedicated solely to this one guy & his quest, his adventure, his journey & story. His struggles & how he became the Lich King. Wc3 is rated as one of the best games, probably best RTS in the world. And then you make one expansion based on all of that, which was shown in the game. Ofcourse it will.

Well ye, my argument still stands. Not everyone parses & the ones who do, pads them mostly. Unless your parse ends up there unwillingly by someone parsing the whole raids.
Iā€™ve looked up plenty of ppl who raids & have not uploaded. Hell my guilds runs would not be uploaded if i didnā€™t do it, that would be 10 less players thatā€™d show up.

Youā€™re paying a hefty penny to cry on the forums.

Yes and you need to take alot of this into consideration.
If you only have 1 mmorpg for example, during a period of lets say 5 years.

This mmorpg has ups & downs. But the population just grows, because itā€™s a new genre of gaming. Theres no or barely existing competition, that cannot keep up.

Then comes a year, when this genre gains alot of competition, where other game studios step up their game. Like FFXIV did from 1.0 to 2.0. Actually a very interesting video on this with Yoshi-p. And this expansion they release is a bit janky, has alot of bugs. Ofcourse youā€™ll look for other options. Maybe just to wait until stuff gets fixed or to check out what else there is.

CS:GO for example used to pretty much own the entire FPS market.
It doesnā€™t anymore, has alot of competition. And the moment they release something bad, people go to something else.

Because theres other options. If there arnā€™t other options, what else would you play?

Exactly my thoughts LOL.

Oh, how is that?

Oh, personal attacks now ? Ok, let me report you thenā€¦

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ā€¦just kidding. Iā€™m not, even thoā€™ I was reported many times by QQers like you.

Guys, is fine! Cataclysm is bad! It is known. You donā€™t have to be thisā€¦butt hurt. Is like a bad Season from a great Series.

If you thought the same, then why did you link it?

If you read the sentence before that, youā€™d know.

I even said it to being with. Scroll up please ā€¦

Is there a sentence?

Btw, nothing about the personal attack ?