As much as I don’t like Danuser and his stories, I think wanting someone to lose their livelihood is-… well, a bit much.
But maybe that’s just me, I dunno! ¯\(ツ)/¯
i hate that ive seen this poster before. what a terrible day to have eyes
You’re ignoring most of what I said to hyperfocus on one part (like you seem to be doing with the new night elf “capital” that isn’t actually their capital).
Yes, technically since Word of God, it’d be the blood elves new capital, but ingame/in-Lore it’d be a neutral quest hub, the trolls and players would be mostly responsible for its defense against fire trolls, it’d fall within the borders of a foreign kingdom and the only link the belves would have with it would be that it’s named Silvermoon (or in the case of the nelves, it has nelf souls).
Oh and the main faction within the zone would be a generic faction encompassing the natives of the zone, and the blood elves would be delegated to the Army of the Sun as their presence.
(I admit this is all based on whats datamined so far and can still be expanded upon ofcourse).
Oh, I don’t have much of a problem with it, insofar that we don’t know much of them yet.
It’s just anoying that so far the dragons seem to be responsible for doing the heavy lifting and the only nelf presence is their leader and the Army of the New Moon (tho they might play a bigger role than datamined so far ofcourse).
Edit: basicly, what I mean is that most of the significant lore that’s added doesn’t seem (feel?) like it’s intended for night elves but is intended to flesh out dragon lore, dragon zones, dragon conflict with the night elves present serving as just vehicles to tell that story.
Edit2: Then again I’m not really a night elf player, I 99% of the time play my gnomes and they lack development in basicly every department.
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It’s in the Dream and on their land so makes sense.
But I’d rather Malf be awake for this section than Ysera.
Switch them back for a patch, then switch again the next one.
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Hopefully it’s just you, since wishing someone to lose their job they are actually terrible at is a very common sentiment and perfectly acceptable.
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To be fair, that’s a mirror to the whole Nordrassil story. I mean, it goes so far as to have a fiery enemy wanting to consume its power to battle literal gods (kind of how Archimonde thought he’d become as powerful as Sargeras).
I don’t have a problem with the set up of 10.2, because it is not (yet) the capital of the Night Elves. Once it phases into Azeroth it may very well be a proper Alliance zone (probably within its own phase).
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isn’t all the new combat world quest etc. stuff in 10.2 taking place in the emerald dream (the New Zone on the patch notes)
aka not the capital world tree that all the NPCs keep saying is going to emerge into the material plane and not be in the Dream anymore once it’s done
“The only NElf presence is all the NElf NPCs that are everywhere including their leaders”
come on man
Also skipping over the additional druid of the flame lore stuff we’re getting, so like…more NElf focus there instead of them being primalists like they coulda been.
I dunno why dragons being involved in a new world tree is a big deal, they were from the start. Wasn’t part of the Night Elf “aesthetic” all their natural allies - dryads, ancients and, yes, dragons.
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It was, yes, though that’s mitigated by the fact that they’re now conveniently allies with practically everybody, even those who have inflicted utter atrocities not only upon the Night Elves but the dragons as well.
Oh, I get that and it does make sense, it’s just it could be a night elf/Alliance, and maybe even a tauren/Horde thing.
Instead it became a general thing that has to be shared between the night elves, three dragonflights (maybe more), druids, Wild Gods, Loa, and the local Emerald Dream natives. Wouldn’t surprise me if other Alliance and Horde races got involved too,dilluting it even more.
Also, Malfy switching with Ysera was one of the dumbest decisions Blizzard ever made!
I get what you’re saying and the reasoning behind it I guess. I just disagree with how it’s done (and lets not talk about the fact that an zone that should’ve been an entire expansion gets only a patch again).
Alos, I will never believe that the zone will ever actually only be Alliance-aligned (or the new city) until I see it ingame.
They didn’t do it for Highmountain, Suramar, or Mechagon, why would they do it for Amirdrassil?
I could’ve worded that better, I meant it more in the vein off “night elves, three dragonflights (maybe more), druids, Wild Gods, Loa, and the local Emerald Dream natives”
In what way are the Druids of the Flame not Primalist tho? They’re aligned with them, they use the same (fire) magic as them, they work towards the same goal (afawk).
That’s like saying Primalist lore is Shaman lore (which it really isn’t).
Dryads and ancients, yeah they’re allies of the night elves and came to their aid.
Dragons? haven’t helped the night elves with defending a World Tree ever before this one.
And the only reason they defend this one is because it’ll be planted (or sorry “emerge”) into their kingdom.
Yeah, that’s fair enough. Although I personally don’t mind it being a one patch thing. Perhaps we’ll see different regions in the future.
Well, to be fair there has been put three expansions worth of story behind Amirdrassil, in that scope alone it is not comparable to any of these cases.
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I feel you’re being purposefully obtuse about this, so just gonna drop this particular thread 
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Druids of the Flame are getting specific quests (and sidequests) around their motivation as Night Elves specifically. While they’re on the same side as the Primalists (after being recruited by Fyrakk), the story is set up to show the difference in situation/beliefs, as well as expanding on why they existed in the first place under Staghelm (elven pride/arrogance/hubris mostly).
They’re a Night Elven faction, and development for DotF is additional lore focus for Night Elves in general, since they’re pretty strongly linked.
Then he should do a good job at his work. If he´s incapable of that, he shouldn´t keep his job and it should be given to someone who can (which will also have personal benefit for the person getting it).
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I’m not so sure it’s the same as giving a decent and satisfying story for Alliance Night Elves though.
In the same vein that we wouldn’t consider Scarlet Crusade or Scourge content to be Alliance Human or Forsaken respectively.
(Not complaining about Druids of the Flames’ existence: They’re an interesting group! But we shouldn’t confuse their inclusion for Darnassian Night Elves)
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Of course not, it’s on top of all the other stuff that Alliance Night Elves are getting/have got. It’s a bonus.
The enemies could have been Primalists, instead, they’re a NElf-specific foe (for a NElf-focused story) with NElf-specific lore.
Let’s flip the situation around and say it’s the Forsaken who remain homeless, who’ve had a steady but consistently unsatisfying story, painfully slowly dripped out over several expansions…
They get a heritage questline after years of waiting to see what state their people are in, only for it to be barely fit for purpose and revealing next to nothing.
And then it looks like they might get Lordaeron back, but there’s an equal chance it’ll remain a neutral raid/hub/WQ area forever, where Dragons, Forsaken and Alliance dance and sing together happily ever after…
I’m not convinced their playerbase would be happy. If I mained Forsaken I know I wouldn’t be.
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I remember WoD.
“But it was tons of Orc content, why wouldn’t anyone be happy about all that focus!”
I remember, I remember how sick to death people were of the retcons, the ‘actually, all Orcs default to violence’ arcs, “Draenor is Saved!” and all that stuff.
And how Forsaken/Sylvanas got villain-batted throughout BFA.
And lots of Tauren focus! After all, Baine is Very Sad™, and that’s main story stuff, right?
But ‘content and focus good’, apparently? 
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You ask that like it’s not exactly what the Forsaken got already, they’re not exactly swimming in fun and exciting development outside of their heritage quest, which didn’t exactly say much beyond giving some feel good moments of blighting Scarlets. BfA and Shadowlands were jokes for them, barely salvaged by the 9.2.5 quest which continued to thrust Calia into the forefront in a way which didn’t make any sense.
I think the idea that the Night Elves are “homeless” is frankly overblown as well. It’s not like they’ve got no towns or safe havens, and we know that they moved back up to Hyjal per Shadow’s Rising. I can sympathise with it not being reflected in game but pretending that Blizzard have just gone “okay Teldrassil’s burned now you’re hobos forever LOL” and nothing else is just not the case.
Oh, do they only have a small spot of ground in Stormwind in-game? I’m sure the Pandaren can’t understand the pain they’re going through.
Between Val’sharah, Suramar/Illidan’s return, Aszhara, the Black Moon, Night Fae in general, Tyrande’s directed quests, NElf stuff with the green dragons in DF, and now 10.2 (and probably its follow up patches too) Night Elves have been fed with content and lore developments over the last three expansions in a way a bunch of races never even come close to. I wouldn’t be surprised if they actually outstripped all the others, save for maybe humans.
The idea that’s a “slow drip out” when they’ve been front and centre for so much of this content is wild to me. Like at that point you’re just complaining about MMO patch cycle times and sorry but that’s not exactly a NElf-specific complaint.
Their heritage quest is lacklustre, but not bad, just lacking. In the context of all the other lore and involvement NElves have had (as opposed to a bunch of other races, again) then it’s hard to commiserate too hard on that.
I mean, most of the Night Elf content they’ve had is good, as long as you’re not obsessed with them “winning”.
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You’re just outright ignoring the points people have made about this for ages now, so I’m just going to save my breath (fingers?) I guess. It’s not a discussion if you’re just going “You wrong tho” 
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But they were at the forefront of the expansion in BfA, shouldn´t they have been happy?
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