Delves - Death Limit Added

Was that before or after they let people in there without the cloak?

The problem was getting people to go into the other phase to kill the big mob by the tentacles so that he was weakened.

Previously Blizzard had just auto selected people for a phase but this required the groups to coordinate. So you’d have a pull wipe, explain the tactics, form groups, wipe again, half the group leaves, explain to newcomers, rinse repeat until you had enough stacks of determination and it would finally die.

Strangely enough Blizzard made their most difficult endboss of the expansion in the first raid in DF (disclaimer: not talking about mythic here, I wouldn’t know).

I killed nzoth on both normal and heroic before I killed him on LFR, due to the amount of people going in without having the cloak, lmao.

yoj can use the forum search function.

generally, no matter what there are people complaining about something.

delves will most likely be absolute faceroll after some rounds of nerfs.
I dont think the top tiers are as hard as the legion mage tower in the ilvl when it came out.
alot of difficulty would also come from being required to use your whole tool kit and doing several things at once for a prolonged time, which they did with mage tower. Delves cannot achieve this as the scenarios are shared and not tailor made for specs.
I expect them at most to be as hard as m0 which you can complete with no deaths without even using your keyboard

Having never done it, I didn’t realise that they kept all that in.

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I always found the biggest problem with LFR N’zoth was people who would just run like headless chickens in insanity puddles and let themselves be pulled into either N’zoth or the outer wall when the tentacles grabbed you despite the game giving you very clear warning which side they were going to come from.

I am a “learn by doing” person so when the LFR first came out I was quite happy to die many times over learning the tactics.
It gets annoying when people don’t appear to be able to read and do said tactics, though. Generally people are very helpful early on in the expansion and explain quite well.

Somone can type all day long and say “its easy it’s easy” but it matters nothing if you don’t LEARN. And the best way to learn is to learn from your mistakes.

Unfortunately, and deeply ironic considering how many people wax lyrical or bemoan the death of, that Holy Grail called “being social” are usually so desperate to get their hands on a shiny new set of pixels that they are absolutely intolerant of any level of failure whatsoever.

And when you reply “well you could have told me what to do…”

99.99% of the time what your answer will be?

“Check on youtube!”

Actually no Mr Expert. Why don’t YOU tell me what to do in your calm and refreshing style…

The biggest laugh is when they angrily type in red yell text or in instance chat “YOU’RE ALL A BUNCH OF NOOBS I DID THIS IN HEROIC!”

I remember one chap got exceedingly angry when I had noticed he was deliberately standing in the insanity pool the big add drops when you first port in where your shiny floaty “corpse” is and I received a rather tetchy reply when I asked “Did you stand in the insanity pools as well on Heroic?”

What do you guys think of the seasonality of delves?

I really hope that it will not detract from the initial goal of that feature.

Because it replaces the PvP track in the vault and the seasonality of them is already being hyped up a bit, I am a bit worried that completing the highest level might result in a mythic quality item in the vault. And so as time goes on, the feature will be more adapted to the minmaxers and balanced with them in mind as well, e.g the most optimal 3-man combo will be advertised on fansites and it will make its way towards common knowledge of all players and so on.

Honestly, just being very selfish here, openly, but I kind of want a feature in the game that is as free as possible from the competitive aspect, is fun to do whenever you want while providing somewhat meaningful rewards that do not even attempt to compete with high-end stuff. I low-key feel that it should not be included in the vault system.

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My Understanding is they won’t reward that high. This was probably done to avoid people feeling they have to do them weekly if they do other activities for gearing.

  • Delve Tiers 1, 2, 3 are unlocked by default for everyone and those tiers will be available until Season 1 launches on September 10.
  • When Season 1 launches, you can unlock Delve Tiers 4-11. Higher tiers are obviously more difficult, but offer better rewards.
  • You must clear the previous tier to unlock a new tier. For example, clearing a Tier 5 Delve without dying 5 times will unlock Tier 6 for you.
  • The Great Vault item level is capped at Delve Tier 8, so the only point in completing Tier 9-11 are achievements.
Delve Tier Item Level of Great Vault Loot
1-2 584 (Veteran 1/8)
3 587 (Veteran 2/8)
4 597 (Champion 1/8)
5 603 (Champion 3/8)
6 606 (Champion 4/8)
7 609 (Hero 1/6)
8+ 616 (Hero 3/6)

Great, I hope it stays like that. I wonder what item level the coffers have that we can access with keys.

Last time I did Raszageth in LFR, as soon as we got to the boss, multiple people wrote in chat what to do in p1: stand in front of the black pools to avoid flying away and don’t stand in the breath. Half group died to either flying away or breath. Wiped a total of 6 times in p1, after each wipe they kept repeating what to do. The exact same people kept dying to the same mechanic each time.
Then we had to start votekicking all of them. After that, we killed the boss easily.
Some people just don’t care, no matter how nice you are to them

Oh those people are either ignorant or just trolling other players.

But what annoys me is seeing players who clearly are way above LFR and just there for transmogs standing on the boss to dump those bombs.

Yeah dude your dps is awesome. Amazing. Stupendous. No really. Everyone is so jealous of your 300k. But thing is… Everyone just wiped because you couldn’t be bothered to move to the edge and drop it there with the others to spread the pool.

Another fight that happens? Eranog.

Keep the lava pools in the middle people, the fire adds will clear them when they expl… OK we don’t want to do that we just want to have lava pools everywhere.

Do you do that in Heroic?

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