Delves should be solo content only

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True, but I would still bet they get nerfed.

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So long as it isn’t e-sports and fun to get in. I’m fine with it.

Sure it can be solo. But also you can bring a friend.

Personally? I think it should max with 2 people in a party.
2’s company, 3’s a crowd.
At 3, it starts being a “majority rule” usually on the favor of being optimal.

2 should be the max for a Bountiful
Anything higher should be taken less serious, yes easier, but more towards just counting to the great vault.

And yes, I think it’s over-tuned for solo. I stopped at Delve 7 before I stopped having fun with how One-Shotty it started getting. Heck, I opened a chest and that one-shot me.

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Please understand delves are made to last you the whole season and if you cannot beat solo T7 yet, it is not the end of the world and we can talk again in two months. I did T8 solo with roughly 590 ilvl (zero enchants, gems or consumables) and it felt about right, it challenged me to the point that the Champion 3/7 item and hero track from GV felt deserved. T9 is beyond my reach atm, but slowly I will get there.

And I am a group player too, I do M+ and sometimes some casual raiding, my concern was delves being trivialized by groups and thus not lasting even two weeks in a season. I want delves to prosper, I want the game to have another pillar of end game and I want the game to have something to offer to solo heroes on the Champion/Hero reward track.

I hope the latest changes will bring the group experience in delves closer to solo play as it should be.

I understand many players will now miss cheese delves for easy champ gear and 3x hero track gear slot filler for the GV, but it should have never been like that.

Delves are not another isle expeditions nor torghast, delves are new evergreen end game feature that will be present every season and every xpac from now on.

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the sad irony is that after today most players will be done with dvelves as they will run out of keys and never will touch them again . and with being 600 itlv and leveld up Brann then got in 2 days even if its buffed they will still destroy it on 5 man today :slight_smile:

as always early bird gets the worm - and now they will all move on to m+ for gear :slight_smile:

while bad players still wont be able to comlete them - whether solo or now in group of baddies since good players will be in m+

typical blizzard - just like with early access easier leveling and making it harder for masses later :slight_smile:

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But T7/T8 is not for bad players, to get something you at least need to deliver a little bit.

Bad players cheesing through T7+ delves in a group and getting loot they would have otherwise never seen was just bad and not good for the health of the game as it negatively affects the reward track synergy with other end game pillars.

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excuses excuses .

you have a topic of priest who cleared t11 in 563 itlv .

those who complained just dont know how to play their class or dont understand what is happening in there

i personaly find it hllarious and dont really care - all this will do is bring much more toxicity into this mode.

gl getting into any groups without being 600 itlv today and like 610+ next reset - all fresh alts ? imposible to get into group so people will jsut ignore them and go +2

dead failed content after 3 days due to those changes :slight_smile: gg blizz :slight_smile:

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I think they should be capped at 3 players and scaled between solo and 3 way play.
They also need to be tuned for those difficulties, as they are too hard for solo after T6 (for non tanks).

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Priest clean it in 40 min lel,

totaly agree with you blizz kill it

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i just read US forums and aparently they completly butchered the implementation of this hotfix making it horrendous to play and buffing the dmg in solo dvelves :smiley:

what a beutiful catastrophe :smiley:

lesson is - no dvelves today untill they fix their stuff :slight_smile:

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People will just wait until easy Delves are Bountiful and do them. 2 of the ones that were up yesterday were quite easy to solo even with 560 ilevel tanks.

I’ve been keeping track of the easy ones and I’ll just do only those.

That said m0 seems like it is absolute faceroll so I’m expecting at least lower m+ to be the same and it might lure me in.

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Why are u comparing an MMOrpg to RTS games? I half skipped over what you said because you just sound confused stop speaking for the player base you can’t grasp a simple concept nevermind speaking for anyone but yourself I’m glad blizz don’t listen to idiots like you the game would be ruined

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just 1 comment from us forums :

"Zekvir hitting me like a wet noodle with 15k autos

Brann’s “tremendous physical damage” aimed shot now hitting for a whopping 50k

Incredible tuning."

:smiley: people reporting normal trash in +8 htting them for 20-150 mln

guess someone is not getting their end of year bonuses after this fiasco :smiley:

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its ok :slight_smile:

and im having blast reading us forums atm :slight_smile:

instead nerfing solo they completly destroyed dvelve as mode - it will take them weeks to fix this for everyone :slight_smile:

while i will be just spaming m+ :slight_smile:

anther comment :

“You made it even worse for solo. Now normal mobs hit for 20M dmg auto attack. Stop with the scaling or you will ruin this experience. It can be salvaged now, but if you continue down this path by not making it solo friendly, then it will be a dead content and deemed a failure by the community.”

gl solowing it today solo crowd :slight_smile:

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I am all fine with the option for both solo and groups, but at least the difficulty should be close to each other.

Someone in discord just said for solo the health of the mobs is higher than going in with 2 players :joy: I mean
 how much can you duck it up?

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To be fair it was already a disaster. I played 2 player yesterday and it was very easy compared to solo.

I might try some soon solo and see what it’s like currently.

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instead you get :

“Based on the many responses I’ve seen over several different forums and social media, it looks like things have been extremely overtuned not only for groups, but people that are soloing, in many cases not being able to clear the same content they were prior to the hotfix.”

" There was a screenshot shared in Acherus post-fix of a blood DK getting clapped for 42 million by a regular melee attack from the boss at the end of T9 Nightfall.

Great tuning."

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I definitely can’t speak about T9. I have soloed 4, 5 and 6 yesterday on my monk on 567 :slight_smile: The 5 had a boss that did way too many casts for solo interrupting and i wiped on it 3 times. The 6 took about 75 minutes with pulling basically every mob solo and i wiped once on the last boss. Was quite intense.

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According to Blizzard it is. So it should be treated as such.

OP has a very good point imo.

You are very delusional if you actually believe that.
There’s a good number of people who play like that. There’s a reason why they’ve made something like delves - implementation not withstanding.

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Why? They should be easier in a group, why should delves be the only content that gets harder when you play with friends? Makes no sense.

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Because it’s meant to be solo endgame progression.
Not ‘get easy champion gear in a group’.

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