Demon Hunters in Arena

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Hello,
Normally i never come here on the forums or i never made a topic i think in the past but this time I feel like i rly need to. For the grammar and english mistakes upwards im sorry its not my major language.
So I’m playing an Arms Warrior in arena/pvp/bg’s and I’ve noticed a huge disadvantage when I’m playing against Demon Hunters. When they are playing Mana Rift (mana burn effect) honor talent and rain from above and 2x Ra’den weapon called Unguent Caress that deals huge ammount of dmg in front of em + a slow which was the only thing that DH’s didnt had cuz no1 plays with master of the glaive anymore they are literally unstoppable. And it rly doesnt matter if they are 1,5k 2k or 2.5k or higher exp/cr etc. Ammount of mana burn (that healer has to go through and drinks he cannot get cuz DH mobility)/burst dmg (u have to heal throlugh and still somehow get mana for it)/mobility u gave this class Blizzard is just ridiculous. DH has literally everything. He doesnt need mortal strike or even slow. He does so much dmg and burn that i bet most of melee/caster comps cannot just take. The arena LFG looks like all healers in que have LF DH title. Cuz w/e they play with needs to be insanely skilled and have insane gear to be able to outdmg a DH. But the problem would be solved if u would remove the mana burn from DH’s. I bet most of the high rated players there would agree that even the dmg is bareable but the mana burn is not. Normally priests back in the day and lock had mana burn and it was meaningful cuz that class brought sth to that comp. But when u removed a mana burn effect every1 lost it. As a DH its very easy to land a mana burn u stun a target and gg. The only way is to play relentless and then he has to land 2xstun or an imprison or his healer helps him to land 2nd cc/stun. Games are ending after 2-5 mins if lucky when healer has no mana and DH just swaps to dps and finish him with the burst he has. Alright outside that: Blade Dance gives him 100% dodge for 1 sec and thats like 7-8 sec cd. Blizz cmon they dont even have to time it right they just spam this for dmg and randomly dodge kidney/sharpen blade (mortal strike) any high burst dmg. So melee stuggles to dps a DH and still they need to time their strong dmg/stuns to not get dodged. And like i typed that be4 they dont even try to time it. Randomly it saving em. Blur 1 min cd 50% dodge and 35% reduce dmg taken. U gave em such a strong leech that they dont need to be healed with the leech they have and mobility ofc to heal themselved w/o a problem.

As a melee representative i think the person that was making a DH and his honor talents/pvp talents is just joking. U made a rly rly rly bad job dude.
A class that have a:
the best mobility + double jump
the strongest dps/burst
2x stuns
immunes
mana burn
a dispel
strong def cd with low cd
PASSIVE dodge effect from a dps ability
insane passive healing
and 4 min cd Swifty that gives a a bloodlust/leech and while activating is immune to all cc like stuns. Btw that a joke that whenever he is using Meta and u land a stormbolt in example in that exact moment hes immune to all cc for 1 sec. So whenever ur unlucky and he is just doing dmg u got F’ed for 30 sec (storm bolt cd).
My advice? Get rid of the mana burn at least. I dont expect anything else u will do to this character anyway. Cuz this problem last since season 1 BFA.

Best regards
Gaav

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smelly likes

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Dh is so stupid and de will Not get nerfs till shadowlands i feel like :confused:

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I saw a lot of ww monks with that fist weapon, and demon hunters proc it twice as much. Actually they have some insane hidden synergy with random procs or idk

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What forum am I on? How does a post get 20 likes

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this is fake news, everyone knows that dh is under performing and is total crap. there is only 2 dhs in the top 100 on eu and 5 on us. yesterday i lost to druid and dh because i kept getting rooted OMG. they should realy nerf rdruid bear form and not let them cast root, it RUINED my whole burst

-something kelduril would say prob tbh

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lol what happened to Kelduril anyway?

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yeah demonhunter proc chance is a utter joke too, literally every single proc, does 30x more.

not to mention the rediculous 30x model size of any race in meta whilst bladedancing just tilting

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he actually quit lol even though the game was so good

I made a post here that got like 150 likes so its definitely possible

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Pics or it didn’t happen

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hey gaav,

i agree with you 100%.
DH are the doom and gloom not only of high rated/skilled players because they literally put a time limit on the arena like you pointed out, BUT they also are extremely dishearten to face as a new player, let me give you a very recent example:

My brother came back to the game this patch (bad timing for his return one could say) after quitting early MoP, he normally focused in PvP and loves to do arena. Many things are new to him, but nothing more than Demon Hunters, and although he loves most of the current game, one and a half month in he is seriously thinking of quitting due to this class alone.
He plays Paladin Holy and we have been doing 2s and 3s on my Alt Sham (our record is horrible, not blaming DH entirely on that :smiley:)

BUT hes main complain is DH, for a new player like himself and a friend of him, there’s noway to play around Mana Burn, you pointed out relentless but with the amount of haste you can get its pointless.

and i would love for him and many others to stick around and play the game more but DH provides a massive barrier for newer players.

he (my brother) did try DH though and hes input was quit accurate.
"theres no skill involved, i don’t mean this in a rude way but there’s simply non, the MOST “skilled” thing you call pull with a DH is Blade Dance a kidney/Cheap Shot but most other classes can do something similar, issue is they need to risk a big CD while DHs is spammable PLUS they gotta manage their resources/high CD mobility ability’s and def CDs while DHs don’t, makes no sense Blizz pushed out a class like this"

all in all, i feel Mana Burn wouldn’t be enough. DH damage is ridiculous and the dodges are as well part of the problem.

i truly hope Blizz “fix” this class, and by “fix” i mean delete it from the game, retcon the whole thing, and give DH players and free 120 boost, everyone happy

lets hope for the best Gaav

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cuz dh has the perma haste buff from demon form

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lol what happened to Kelduril anyway?

i seen him active on the rp server forums. i check there when i bored, i seen few of his post and few on the dh forums.

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I think something like that would be “ok”, but the dev are just lazy as **** or idk

Demon hunter

Blade Dance
35 Fury
Instant cast 9 sec cooldown
Strike all nearby enemies for [3 * (10% of Attack power)% + (30% of Attack power)%] Physical damage.
Removed Blade Dance increase your chance to dodge by 100% for 1 sec.

Metamorphosis
40 yd range
Instant 3 min cooldown was 4 min cooldown
Requires Demon Hunter
Leap into the air and land with explosive force, dealing (32.76% of Attack power) Chaos damage to enemies within 8 yds, and stunning them for 3 sec. Players are Dazed for 3 sec instead.
Upon landing, you are transformed into a hellish demon for 30 sec, greatly empowering your Chaos Strike and Blade Dance abilities,gaining 10% Leech, and 15 % Haste
was 20% Leech, and 25% Haste

Double Jump now have 12 sec cooldown.

New ability :

Void Evasion
Instant cast 40 sec cooldown
Your next Blade Dance increase your chance to dodge by 100% for 1 sec.

Pvp talent :

Mana rift has been removed

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Thank you ALL very much for replying for the post. I rly appreciate it.
I definitly feel the same!
P.S And those suggest fix from Sithx looks rly good.

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You can’t blade dance a Cheap shot. Kidney you can. Cheap Shot cannot be dodged or parried. The only way to avoid it for a DH is with meta animation since it immune everything in the game.

Sub with a better ms and a tiny bit of sustained would be good into DHs because of that.

But yeah, stupid class still.

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Just imagine a rogue whining about dh and calling it stupid, lol. Quite ironic

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In what way was he whining? He simply said how some abilities work and that the Demon Hunter class is stupid. If you believe that the Demon Hunter class design is not stupid, I’m all ears for why you don’t think so.

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I just find it funny coming from both of you

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