I don’t really view as peace, more like a truce for now. We’ve had to face a common enemy at various points in the expansions but that has never meant we are forever friends or fighting together.
Sadly true…
Those clamoring for a new Race War will inevitably get their wish fulfilled.
Just give me the option to remain faction neutral and you guys can have your never-ending Race War for all I care.
I just don’t want any part of it, it’s completely uninteresting to me. And I don’t like not having a choice in the matter when it comes to my characters.
“You are an insufferable racist who hates every race on X side of the war, got it?”
“YES SUH!”
Failing that I’ll unsubscribe for every Race War expansion and possibly return later instead.
I also think it’s unrealistic for there to be a real peace between the Horde and Alliance, the Night Elves have lost their home, they lost a lot of civilians, they couldn’t get support from Anduin because the Alliance forces were already too thinly stretched.
I hope that we see both factions solidify their alliances. There are clearly cracks in both sides.
Bad blood, sure.
But I also find it unrealistic that two sides can yo-yo from “cooperation” to “war” and back again indefinitely…
But I’ve given up hope that we’ll see and end to the Race War theme.
There’s tons upon tons of people and organizations in the lore that realize fighting each other is at best pointlessly destructive, and at worst directly moronic when there’s bigger threats to the entire planet out there.
Let me join one of these groups Blizz! Or let me be like Valeera Sanguinar, who’s also faction neutral.
Not even expecting to be allowed entry into Alliance cities on my Horde characters or Horde cities on my Alliance characters.
But let me opt out of another Race War.
Technically my characters aren’t even military, they’re just Racist Adventurers that apparently can’t say no to a job if it involves killing this or that race.
Let them fight, just let me opt out.
I passed “Sick to death” of the Race War story 100 miles ago.
I’d be fine with a peace treaty where we don’t attack each other but we aren’t friends. I just don’t want them to destroy the basis of the game. The Horde and the Alliance as two separate factions.
I can see they would go for some desperate measure like cross faction play when the player base has dwindled down and is too small but until that point I think they should keep true to the game for as along as possible. The player numbers are no where near low enough to warrant that.
At the end of the day only Blizzard can decide what they want to do with their game. The playerbase will never speak with one voice. They will always want different things
Personally I’d like to see cross-faction play sooner rather than later.
Even if we’re barred from entering each others cities, letting some of us play together is as lore-friendly as letting some of us fight each other.
But that’s just my opinion.
All whole of Warcraft story is about Bigger Threats and Alliance vs Horde War and conflicts, this is a Video Game all about War and Conflicts and not a TV Novella
If this Peace is the direction they want and just let Bigger Threats out there only, they should end World of Warcraft game as whole here and doing the rest of the Story in Comics, Books and etc and not in Game anymore
Right, when someone has an opinion that differs from your own it’s ridiculous and must be made fun of?
Well, I haven’t participated in the Race War more than I had to (BfA) for many, many years.
And I’m pretty sure I’ve been playing World of Warcraft this entire time, even though I’ve completely opted out of PvP.
And besides, I didn’t ask for them to remove the Race War. I asked for the option to opt out of it, because I find it as pointless as I find it boring.
When people’s Opinion is to turn a Game of War and Conflicts in a TV Novella something is wrong there then, what’s next a “My Little Pony” story in Warcraft Franchise
I’m the opposite, I will have to have a long think about whether or not I’d want to carry on. Another game I played did the same and it was horrible.
Yes, and that is why I can’t get excited about “generic end of all things threat #63578”. It can work one time, maybe two, more then that and it becomes boring, stale and predictable. The reason game of thrones worked so well is cause there were actual consequenses for the first 4 seasons and main characters could actually die. Blizzard needs to start killing characters that people care about and not keep them around forever (Sylvanas).
Why was the broken shore so insanely epic and well done? Cause Varian died, he sacrificied himself for the greater good. Something we as players can appreciate since its something thst happens in the real world which we inhabit.
Same in Warcraft 3 when Arthas picks up Frostmourne, that moment is made a billion times more powerfull since it leads to Muradins (alleged) death.
Just imagine if Bfa had ended with Sylvanas being defeated as an end boss to the last raid, and that Jaina actually was killed in Battle of Dazar’alor. That would’ve made this expansion much more memorable, I think.
Try reading what I said one more time… Because apparently you’re having trouble seeing what I wrote.
This part in particular
Leave the Race War in there for those that enjoy it, just let me opt out of it. And let people play together cross-faction if they want to. Which we see individuals and minor-factions do in the game literally all the time.
But I’m done discussing with you, you are immature enough to try to ridicule whoever disagrees with you and that makes it pointless to engage with you any further.
Have a good day.
Yeah I would instantly quit. I’d even carry on if they permanently removed flying. Remove the faction barriers, however, and I’m done. No regrets.
I can’t see why you’d have to think about keep playing if others were allowed to play together cross-faction as an option.
Something you would not be forced to participate in.
But you do you. Agree to disagree and whatnot.
I know very well what you wrote , you want opt out of Wars between Factions and being Neutral, but i’ve bad news for you they won’t make that here because Game doesn’t work like that, maybe you should find another Game to play then
I’m of the opposite mind.
“generic end of all things threat #63578”.
This scenario has a clear winner and a loser. A conclusion to a story.
The Race War will never have a conclusion to a story because it can’t end. You can’t have one side annihilate the other, because what would happen with the ones playing that side? Would all their characters be deleted?
All Race Wars end in a stalemate because there are players on each side.
Also, they’re already killing big lore characters in a rapid tempo. If they escalated it up to Game of Thrones levels we’d go two more expansions and we’d have no lore characters left as they’d all be dead.
What do you mean? We can still have major lore consequences if the game is focused around the faction conflict, such as the destruction of Teldradsill and Undercity. Or the deaths of characters like Jaina, Sylvanas, etc.
I actually did cancel my subscription and get a refund on a flying mount when they announced they would be removing flying in the future. Fortunately they changed their minds when a lot of people did the same. I don’t think they expected the backlash.
It’s hard to judge with cross faction. There was a positive response from the crowd at BlizzCon when they said they wouldn’t do it . On the other hand we have a regular bunch on here who always want it but it’s generally the same people every time. So it’s hard to judge if there is wider interest or not.
Factions War and Bigger Threats all can End you know how - End with World of Warcraft as game, creating a Ending Story and move on, simple as that
The whole “It’s world of WAR-craft so therefore any opinion on that we shouldnt have faction war is wrong” is just a cringy old meme from mmo-champion people.
There’s a million more things to explore in the setting, and in WoW’s history as a game, the faction war has always been the worst written aspect of it. Let it die. It’s beyond stagnant at this point and instead just getting kinda ridiculous and slightly insulting.
Keep it to small skirmishes and or just pvp without any story to it, but the story of the faction war is geniuenly terrible and always kinda has been due to the dumb writing of it.