[Discussion] [H] [RP] The Horde RP scene

Was Chook’s campaign the one in Borean Tundra? I felt really bad @ that being cut short. I don’t have the courage to host big events or campaigns, struggle to DM for more than five people at once tbh.

Always sucks when campaigns get short cause of people not turning up, but if it’s any consolation the campaigns that allow “independents” to sign up gets me a lot of RP that I otherwise wouldn’t have - not that anyone is obligated to provide for me but I do appreciate it when they come around. Had a period this year where I could literally bang from campaign-to-campaign for three months in a row.

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So it’s just vagueposting again, I guess

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Contrary to what you might believe, throwing dung at people and making up stuff that never happened is not, in fact, criticism. It’s just trash behaviour, and ought to be treated as such, not as if it’s some wise critique worth respecting.

i have and i think if you meant to sound all unbiased and partisan (edit: i am like 90% sure I used this word wrong but it popped in my head, I wrote it down, and I posted it. I’m not taking it back), your phrasing is awful.

She ran the Howling Fjord one in early 2019, Borean Tundra back in spring 2018 was run by Tagar of Bloodsong.

I went to that one too, like the RP parasite I am.

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I mean, I totally agree with that post. I don’t find it even slightly credible that all the bad blood on the server exists on one side. That doesn’t mean I believe every bad thing I’ve ever heard said about the PCU.

Why in this particular case in warrants to be specific?

I’m sure that you do accept the idea that, as a large community with a style that tends to be quite competitive, it’s likely that your style may sometimes bring the players to make mistakes, no?

honestly it’d be pleasant if people were ever specific at all but whenever people get asked to back things up they say things like “oh there’s too much to choose from” or “oh well i don’t take screenshots that’s immoral and mean” etcetera. There’s always excuses to avoid being specific.

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Will you continue vague-dancing at me or are you going to bring up anything specific?

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Same, I attended a lot of public campaigns before I found a community that I was comfortable in. My days of verbose criticism of public RP-PvP campaigns are over.

Now I have flashbacks to the Hallows End ball and the two Geese :stuck_out_tongue:

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Unironically you are being as vague, Tyreis, yet my answer could be resolved with a simple “yes” or “no”.

I frankly think that I have already voiced many disagreements in other threads - and voicing more (which would lead into more discussions) aswell as retaking old arguments back, would likely be of no use in this context, and only damage a potentially fruitful thread for the sake of either mine or your protagonism, which I think it’s just detrimental to the thread/community as a whole. You’re very much free to open a separate thread and ask for feedback about the PCU, which is a thing I would gladly offer if I see that the intention is genuine (tomorrow evening, when I get back from university).

But honestly even now I perceive a tendency to be on the defensive/passive-aggressive, which kind of makes me wonder what is the point of asking for examples, when you and I both know that the moment I will post one, ten PCU members will join the thread, swearing how bad the rest of the community has been in that episode and how flawless the PCU’s behavior is, or people will act in denial for a long time, or just play a victim card, until eventually pulling out a slogan and derail any effort to communicate. This, again, is yet another uncooperative attitude which is clear from the very beginning: rather than asking for genuine feedback, most of these posts seem to be ready to strike at the person offering criticism, be it genuine or not, until his/her position isn’t reconsidered. I am offering feedback here; and I think it’s best left to be generic, not only for the reasons above, but because I think the issue is this underlying tendency to refuse to consider that other people’s opinion, if divergent from yours, might be reasonable, and instead prove them wrong at all costs [ie. to look better than the other one].

TLDR, If you don’t listen, what is the point in talking?

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Me driving that one

I also went to university just wanted to let you know that

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If you’re going to claim that a community did wrong at any point, then the onus is on you to point out the instance of wrong-doing. Making a claim about something objective and then refusing to support your claim isn’t a good look. It makes you look like a useful idiot at best and a malicious spreader of rumours at worst.

If you want a slightly more effective way of going about this, consider a subjective approach and state that you take umbrage with what you perceive to be a needlessly abrasive manner of posting on the forums, or that you personally dislike with how they establish themselves as an IC authority in Orgrimmar.

Of course they’re welcome to disregard your opinion, but it’s not anywhere near as self-sabotaging as making an objective claim and refusing to back that claim up.

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Actually thinking about it, jokes about Geese aside, and they were hilarious, the Hallowed Ball was a really good example of how it doesn’t -have- to be this way. It was fun, there were a few PCU guilds there, and non PCU guilds alike, there was also, I noted, a pretty record number of nonguilded folk there, who were getting just as involved and weren’t being shunned for a lack of a Guild Tag over their heads. It was a pretty chilled occasion, and people made a lot of effort to get with the vibe, (Although clearly the best Elf won the costume contest #humblebrag ). There were probably grudges underneath, I know Brigante was a bit anxious about interacting with some, and yet -not- anxious about interacting with others -of the same guilds-, and likely vice versa, but it was all an IC occasion, and it really did seem like any beef had been left at the door.

We can do it at a ‘fairly’ Light Hearted festival (albeit the whole thing of Hallows End kind of is celebrating the end of a period of slavery for a Horde race, so not really that light hearted, but you get what I mean). We should be able to do it in general RP also. I think there were a lot of misunderstandings between various groups and guilds, and harsh words spoken ( and heck knows I’m as guilty of that as anyone else) which we’ve all kind of let fester, and so have become more entrenched, so rather than everyone being inclined to let bygones be bygones, those attitudes have solidified, leading to a ‘them and us’ mentality, which given that Horde is only, what 30% of the server population, we can’t really afford so much.

It would be interesting, and probably beneficial for everyone if we could draw a line under things, or an amnesty, call it what you will, and go forwards without any preconceptions or angst OOC towards each other. Maybe we could pop our heads over the trenches and have a jolly kickabout on Christmas day? (That was a joke, in case anyone thought I was serious, I’ll be far too busy eating Christmas dinner and getting drunk).

Basically this thread is just going round in circles of “You!, No! You!” so at the risk of sounding all Taran Zhu about it, nothing’s gonna change, until we kinda go “Alright, that all happened, it was a mad couple of years, lets just put it away in its box and get on with telling collaborative stories that are fun for everyone concerned, collaborative, not competitive. (Although obviously characters will disagree, I more mean the OOC gripes)

Reckon we can all do that, or have things gone too far?

waves olive branch.

P.S. I did not go to University,.

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You’re right, there is no point :sweat_smile:

Also went to university btw

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I miss the kind of brutal honesty of 2013 era AD. People didn’t vague post and beat around the bush, they exposed any and all wrong doing on the forums on the regular without fear of being disqualified for MVP green posting or trust level 3 nowadays I guess

What changed fellas

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Do people actually aspire to that? good grief…

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A lot of people refuse to spill the details because it’s against forum rules and then when offered another venue through which to covertly pass the evidence without breaking rules (discord) for verification they jump through hoops about how now they don’t want to do that because you’re being hecking mean

Hence the term vagueposting

I mean, pulling up a 12gig folder of screenshots to do a bamboozle on someone you don’t like in RP in a game is kind of petty.
But I’d like me some more honesty instead of /w or hidden discord chats telling you who is the good or the bad boy on the block/server.
I’ve been in guilds where people legit talked about “bad publicity” when someone got screenshots of a guildmember doing something ‘controversial’.
Publicity? We RPing the american presidental election here? R u Kylie Jenner and your lips are fake?
Publicity, jeez.

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