yeah that guy is just kinda crazy obsessed with the PCU. afaik it’s Zalanju, a dude who got silenced for faffing about an RP area and then went on a crusade to get silenced and suspended loads more by doing the same thing to get revenge somehow.
are you saying people deserve to be called n*zis over roleplay? You seriously might wanna change your stance (or phrase it 500 times better) if you don’t wanna look like a whackjob tbh
I am pretty sure it’s more the case that people get publicly shamed on social media, harassed in /w and so forth.
I’ve seen it all, from both sides. Pretending that people call other people mean things over the internet, solely because of IC actions is short sighted. There is so much more at play here, which is outright OOC beef. And thanks to social media it just blew up in recent years.
Some things never change.
I don’t know why it can’t be both.
That, or the campaign organizer already have specific group(s) of people they wish to cater to in mind, which honestly isn’t as bad as it seems. Some DMs just wants to keep their campaigns at a scale they’re comfortable in managing, and that’s fine.
It takes a considerably larger amount of effort to manage an open, server-wide campaign, compared to one aimed at either individual players or just a handful of guilds.
Ehhhhh, going on a tangent away from the PCU. I know that people might find me a bit acidic at times on the forums, I can be.
But there was a dude who plays Alliance side who I haven’t had any interactions with since early Mists who was very quick to slander me/Bladewing during Drums of War.
Roleplayers tend to hold grudges over weird things and they just don’t let go or move on.
Yeah, no one is actually obligated to the community.
This too.
On my old server most campaigns were semi-private, hosted between several guilds. RP or RPPvP. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that. It was largely just to keep things a manageable size.
That and the server had some trolls/lollers who’d show up to anything publicly advertised to make a mess of things. Think entire raids co-ordinating across both factions to wipe out both sides of an RPPvP fight then dance naked on our corpses. Nowadays we have Discord and such at least but back then the GMs were all in a single Skype group, and finding out about these campaigns was hella difficult if you weren’t in one of the guilds ALREADY involved.
So this isn’t really a new concept nor one exclusive to AD. Sometimes it’s for good reasons, sometimes it isn’t.
I’m not sure what you’re saying here, who has ‘misbehaved badly over years’ and ‘been unpleasant to deal with’ ?
I can’t tell if you’re saying it’s okay to call people fascists over perceived issues.
I am content staying out of this thread for the most part, but pretending that PCU doesn’t have a history of very troublesome behaviour while at the same time accusing others of the same seems a bit lacking in introspection.
I am a different person from what I was back in 2014 or 2015 or whatever the peak drama time was, and I have made some attempts over the years at reconciliation, but there’s just fundamentally too much disagreement over what we define as ‘decent behaviour’.
While I am sure we would all love a history lesson of digging up old threads, skype screenshots and so on and so forth ad nauseam, I don’t imagine that would help keep the thread on its course of hope for Horde community reconciliation. But it’s still there, and as far as I can tell it’s never stopped.
Trying to take the ‘PCU bad’ high-road is a bit disingenuous considering that the mud slinging has come from all sides back and forth for years now, there’s even blogs about Perroy, rumours of dodgy IRL bust ups, and weirdly named alt characters making references to parents and past lives.
But if that’s where you want to go Ashtray, go for it.
That was not what I was saying. What I was saying is that it is lacking in introspection to accuse the opposition of being mudslinging while ignoring the fundamental history of PCU.
Do you think it would be as controversial as it is if it was all sunshine and rainbows?
are you sure
Considering what I know of the main detractors - yes, it probably would.
Why? Because they’re the kind of people who need to feel like they’re the good guys, OOC and IC.
Quietly retreats into bomb shelter
Oh heck here we go.
Oh, I agree with you! You’re right from that perspective.
No need. I have said what I want to say.
If they really want to argue that PCU is blameless and all the bad guys are on the other side, then really there is no point.
I agree with the sentiment, but as you (probably) know, human interaction does not work like that. People do not need to scientifically back up their research in order to accurately determine that someone else is, for example, a nice person. That’s just something we pick up on. Intuition. Pattern reckognition.
Calling it hunches, which I think I saw it being called later on, is pretty inaccurate, and really only serves to label it as some silly inaccurate way of measurement as a way to devalue it. If that was intentional; bad form. Be better than that. If it was not; No worries, now you know why you shouldn’t.
Observational skills, yo. Reckognize them.
RPers fighting would be hilarious to watch
LARPing, but with deadly consequences
Who’s arguing this? Literally no one else brought it up in the thread, except you.
If anything you seem to be arguing the opposite, that the PCU is the big bad; which falls right into my theory of people needing to look like the good guy.
You. As in, it answers both the questions.
Specific you, then general you.
or maybe he was asking lupus to not vaguepost and just be specific 