Do addons ruin what wow is?

The top most addon that allows me to play the game and doesn’t affect gameplay whatsoever is clearfont2 which hasn’t been updated since WOLK but sort of still works by command, not the UI.

It’s something that Blizzard themselves should add into the client but all they have done is added support for colour blind users and not anyone that requires to increase the font size beyond what is in the game.

Means less screen space to see action in but it does help. Without it, I wouldn’t be able to read the story, quests or other things on screen to play it properly.

They’re are videos on YouTube of people raging. Going over the top. Spreading their negativity or aggression this is toxic.

Youtube … my dear forum friend, I do not watch random youtubers as for me they are random people in random basement.

I am nice person myself and I have 0 tolerance of toxic actions and my ingame nickname is carebear, and I still claim that add-ons do not make people toxic, their lack of manners does.

if you’d take away the add-ons, they’d find another way. For example in Vanilla I got death threats just because of being balance druid in cloth gera. no other crime done, but being a druid on Ironforge AH.

Addons had nil to do with that.

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I beat you with my curves on my windwalker monk! :wink:
(at least by this page)
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/23/

Oh subtlety rogues are even more off the menu … :open_mouth: when my survival 1st time killed hC az, there were only 1200 logs done for survivals.

but dps wise survival is nice.

i wouldn’t roll in any other way at moment. I love my survival hunter!

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This is not classic where you must play specific a spec to be viable… People who play one class for few years get top dps/hps etc no matter how hard the spec will get nerfed to ground. If you want rid of toxicity be more friendly to others.

I think you answered it by yourself. It became a thing with eSports but otherwise it was rather just a MMO. yes, it was always competitive but not to such lengths like we have it these days.

Depends on how the choice is made, if those people being rejected are specifically being told that they are bad (or more harsher wording for the same type of thing) for playing a certain spec then negative (or toxic) behaviour can be attributed to the choice being made.

I’ve been rejected for playing an unfavourable spec before in a pretty harsh way only to end up in another group with them.

Or you could offer some help for that person with the really low DPS. The attitude that other players are disposable is a really bad one to have. Once upon a time people helped each other in MMORGS, modern gaming attitudes really are suffering because of how players treat each other.

Also, there are people who check meters for things like DPS/HPS during fights. I’ve literally been sat on discord with an ex guild where the officers berated one person for their poor healing, bearing in mind that the healer in question was far lower in gear than the others so would never have performed on the same level.

My future Vulpera will be a Survival Hunter, it just seems like such a great fit.

Whenever I end up in groups with those players with those rarely seen specs I smile, its great seeing people who say screw it to the meta stuff and just enjoy what they want to play.

Sure, we all have been there. Still this are toxic people. It has nothing with the game, addons or meta to do.

There is few solutions for this.
1st do content with grp of people you know.
2nd make your own grp.
3rd get better in the class you play.

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Default UI is garbage.

Many PvP addons are useful and not sure if you can play without em.

Either they need to include them in base game as official addons else i dont have a problem download/updating them via Twitch.

Obv addons aint ruining WoW at all.

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Partly right, partly wrong. These tools enable the people to go out in the first place. Obviously it depends on each individual but as you have pointed it out, toxic people will still be toxic. What the actual issue is that a rating gives them a reason beforehand to reject you without even have the need to try it.

I don’t think that the graphical enhancements add-ons are ruining it but other ones.

Default UI is ok if you make few adjustments ofc will be nice if it would be more smooth. You don´t need addons but true is that thanks to addons you can be like germans… more efficient and also get better in understanding of the game.

But what is toxic about a player not inviting because he can not show experience in certain content, when you want to roll though that content. Especially when it is M+ when you got 1 key = only 1 attempt?

This are choices. It is not toxic. It can be wrong choices obviously.

What the actual issue is that a rating gives them a reason beforehand to reject you without even have the need to try it.

How can this be an issue when it’s the whole point? people don’t want to try they want to succeed.

You mean the ones who show a numerical value that represents the player performance? gotcha.

I think we should stop thinking about others as toxic… We all want to do content with like minded people. Does that make us toxic???

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I did not say that people should not help that person first, but if the person stay at the bottom, there is not much people can do except replacing.

I raided in CE guild during HFC and after reclear i was helping a normal raiding guild, and a lot of player just did not care about your tips, they just did not care of improving. People doing 18k dps on Archimonde before and after your tips, they just did not listen.
Improving should come from the player itself first because otherwise you will end up explaining and obtaining 0 result.

Person screaming for dps/hps chart during a fight are probably bad, especially the hps one.

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Exactly. While more data is always good, it certainly gets abused. It’s kinda the unicorn-job situation where a firm expects you to do more than one thing you’re qualified for with more years job experience as what is possible.

In other words, they want you to be 450 for clearing a +0 mythic dungeon, to put it into an extreme example.

Then the abusers are the problem and not the tools that provide the data.

Exactly. But what are you going to do when there are more abuser than honest people? Hoping for another day where someone takes you then?

It’s a double-edged sword which shouldn’t be a thing at all.