A lot of you will say hell no, not in a million years, they make it insanely hard for regular players to farm gold etc.
The reason i think some of them might be good though, is due to how players play now VS actual Vanilla. Back in the day the % of total players raiding was tiny compared to wow classic. On top of that the meta of bringing every world buff and consumable did not exist. Vanilla wow was not designed to have players popping as many consumables as we do, as frequently as we do.
Without the army of bots in the background farming vast amounts of herbs, and other consumables i really doubt it would be possible for many people to raid like they do.
I’m not trying to support bottling, just arguing that with no bots consumable prices could be even more ridiculous than they’ve been at some points in classic. Personally my preferred solution would be to get rid of bots, the further increase black lotus, and other herb drop rates to adjust to how players play the game now vs 15 years ago.
So, the upside of having bots in the game is that people won’t have to work as much for things they want in a video game about working for things you want?
Seriously, what has happened to some good ol’ deserving something through work and effort instead of it being handed to you. It’s the same story like with the boost.
I swear half of WoW’s population hates the very core idea of the game.
We now have a different problem. Bots nowadays don’t even bother with farming and flooding the AH with [cheap] herbs / ores / etc.
This is something wow has not experienced before and the reason is this time Blizzard went FULL hands-off approach and letting bots to infiltrate the game in never before seen amounts.
They have evolved into instanced BRD/Strat bots, just farming “raw” gold pumping it into economy and thus actually causing galloping inflation and increasing mat prices.
People don’t play the game like 15 years ago. When you have most players not raiding, and most raiders not popping full consumables the demand for a lot of consumables was relatively low. Ontop of that you had a big group of players farming consumeables for gold, yet not actively consuming them.
In modern wow everyone is the equivalent of the most hard-core vanila raiders, and it’s really evident the games resources systems are not set up to handle that. If you removed every bot from the game tomorrow, it would be impossible for people to raid like they do now.
What about banned gold buyer, that would be even better and a bit easier to do.
Yes, I know, many wouldnt like half of their guild being banned, but healthier ones would emerge
Well i just was precise here, the OP just talked about bots, as far as i remember.
But i agree, i would love to see everyone that every bought even 1 gold for real live money get permabanned. I would not care if my guild got cuttet in half tbh ^^ Its against tos, so out with those naughty boys/girls
Yes, OP talked about bots, just like everybody else here, but very few talk about punishing gold buyers, meaning many would be guildless or in barren guild one day the log in.
Yes, bots are a plague to the game, but in a way I can understand bot owners, some of them even make living of botting and gold selling.
For me, much worse are gold buyers who get unfair advantage in game over others and then even hypocritically brag about their in-game success and parses, becoming heroes for other players.
While reading your post i realised how right your are, We rarely talk about goldbuyers, yet they are the main problem.
I actually dont know how blizz is dealing with them. I only heard once that a goldbuyer in an old guild got banned, but i think it was not perma. Only the gold was gone + 7 day ban.
This is something that will make boosting worse i think, even if you get caught and perma banned, you can just buy a boost an relvl the rest and buy gold again. It sucks but its a different story than to lvl from 1 again.
Thank you for shining more light on that.
I get your point but it is totally flawed. A lot of the content you do not need mass consumables for, it is the zoomer-min-max meta that makes people do it. If there are more real people farming instead of bots the prices won’t change persay, demand will change as well because of time constraints.
If only 1 person can farm Black Lotus’ and puts them all on AH for 200g each, how many people do you think will have the money to buy them regularly (if they don’t have the time to farm as you say)? So the price will be lower.
There is only the issue of how many players vs how possible it is to do something. If you needed flasks on 40 members for 1 raid, but there was only ever 40 lotus spawns per week, then only 1 group can clear that 1 raid. This is a core problem.
However, I do not see this is the case currently and I imagine it would not be the case either if there were not bots. Finally, if you did need so many consumables and there was a bit of a squeeze on the amount available then this just makes those raids/places where consumes are needed just that more impactful to the player and have more meaning (and makes them play longer - something Blizzard have forgot).
