What does meme mean in that context?
Those 2 were delicious situational flavor skills.
Especially the Beast one
Well its pretty much easy for normal raids (8 man) and alliance raids (24 man). Avoid red aoe, stack when arrow on someone and run from party when targeted with aoe attack.
Savage raids (mythic in wow) is pretty much very hard, you must coordinate stuff cause there are 2, 3 mechanics same time that pops, tanks healers and dps must know what to do. 1 mistake and raid wipes. Thats why there are static groups there where you train and learn from wipes plus you get great looking cosmetics for armor and weapons(tokens) while here in wow there is rng so you might not get anything here for weeks.
Non relevant in most scenarious and exist to please old fans
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Works for Englandā¦oh, waitā¦
Suboptimal, traps, etc. Like elemental and resto shaman getting primal strike.
ff14 raids are some of the best on the marketā¦ it would surprise even the most accomplished of mythic raiders in wow .
I canāt really tell since I never tried any raids in FF but tbh I think they are easier in the end. The videos Iāve seen they are more of a big dance than a difficult fight. The games combat are also very different so comparing them is kinda awkward.
Edit: if anyone has wipe counts of ff14 bosses that would give us a metric to compare.
you shouldnt speak for what you havent triedā¦ just like i never speak for wow mythic raids cause i do not do them.
ff14 raids are plenty challenging especially on the hardest difficultiesā¦
when ARR released only a handful of freecompanies cleared savage raidsā¦
some freecompanies were evens till trying to clear then 2 expansion later.
that should give you some idea of difficulty.
I think in one of last preach videos, a mythic wow raider said it needed ~500 pulls to clear some ultimate
you shouldnt speak for what you havent triedā¦ just like i never speak for wow mythic raids cause i do not do them.
ff14 raids are plenty challenging especially on the hardest difficultiesā¦
I played both games in hardcore guilds.
Yep, theyāre quite challenging in ff14, especially when youāre new in the game. However after you learn few fights then every next fight is much, much easier for you.
Same thing you can tell about gw2, where itās quite hard to start, but itās easy to master. And there are challenging bosses as dhuum cm for example. But when you do this boss, then then there wonāt be anything hard for you anymore in this game.
WoW raiding is definitely harder and also WoW is much more competitive game than ff14.
when ARR released only a handful of freecompanies cleared savage raidsā¦
some freecompanies were evens till trying to clear then 2 expansion later.
Because 95% of this game are casual players.
And this is also huge problem of this game, cause itās very hard to find decent people to raid with them. In WoW itās much easier.
same for any mmorpg though that is once you learn tactics and clear it a few times it becomes easy.
im sure even wow is the same.
EDIT: same for any game in general tbhā¦
take darksoulsā¦ i sucked at that when i started couldnt even kill the first main bossā¦
but by the time i finished i could easily walk around the game naked without taking hitsā¦
That would make them pretty even then.
Yes, but ultimates are pretty rare, I think there are only 4 so far in the whole game. Savage is the usual hard mode, and itās a lot easier - itād say itās somewhere between heroic and mythic raids in wow.
One of the coolest things the FFXIV team does is that they do not release content to the players that the devs havenāt beaten internally. This is not the case with WoW, where I doubt the devs can clear mythic raids.
Kk I see. Would be fun to see best raiders of wow and ff to compete against each others but in the opposite games 
giving them some time to adjust to the game of course.
ultimates are a pretty new thing to the game in general was only added in the last couple expansions, which is why they are rare right now.
Ion himself has cleared every raid of wow since the start I think. He wasnāt a dev back in the start though.
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i feel sorry for him lol
Keep in mind that all of the ff14 raids are more or less ādanceā fights, and that the difficulty is mostly because of constantly repeating mechanics without addons like dbm or bigwigs to help(although there are some external programs that set up timers). Dps checks are not so tight because the game doesnāt officially support dps metters.
Y thatās why I said the games are very difficult and thus hard to compare.