Proofs ? Because i already showed mine before.
I can’t wait to see your 3-4K honor 20min AV screenshot.
The nerf that hit us now was the rates of honor at the end of tbc, not the beginning. So don’t confuse yourself.
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So, what’s the issue ? TBC Classic is based on 2.4.3. We knew it beforehand.
Dont even react to that troll troll priest its just not worth it. He/she is totally clue less and whatever point you will make troll wont get it.
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I’m not saying it was the same rate as pre fix. But it was for sure not as bad as now lmao are you crazy? Farming honor off set gear was easy, marks of honor were the bottleneck. Not the damn honor itself.
This is prepatch tbc not end of tbc. Everyone farmed the gear at og prepatch without being 24/7 players over 100 hours and 200 games played for 2 pieces. Wake up
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Indeed. Ive seen him around. He has no clue, and defends Blizzard whatever they do…Pretty cringe.
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Again, here is my proof : https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1029094252?t=1h18m46s at least for the honor bonus points.
And another one : https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/3547877767-honor-and-battleground-holiday-weekends/
Only HK aren’t accurate.
Now can you please link me yours ?
If i’m wrong i’ll 100% admit it and thank you for providing me accurate informations.
Everyone here is just saying “you are wrong lol freaking troll”. But no one can’t provide me an actual (even 1) proof that i’m wrong.
Based on it doesn’t mean the servers will open with brutal gladiator and sunwell does it? Honor rates changed over time. And they weren’t that bad at the start, not even close idc about your 2,4,3 screenshots
As expected. No proofs and “i don’t care about yours”. What about the blue post then 
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Level 70 (not 60, meaning it should be less) :
Arathi Basin
Normal / Holiday
Honor per resource 20.9 honor per 330 resources / 20.9 honor per 200 resources
Win 20.9 honor / 20.9 honor
Map Complete 20.9 honor / 20.9 honor
So, a win in “Normal” : 126 from ressources + 21 + 21 = 168. It’s what we have now.
Again, source : https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/3547877767-honor-and-battleground-holiday-weekends/
But i’m the troll here, yeah ofc. 
So you’re giving us twice the amount of honor that you messed up (1 honor per kill is not normal), while giving us less than a 1/3rd of the time the original prepatch.
This is not ok.
A good easy fix? Revert it back to first day and reduce by half the values gained.
Or increase the actual bonus honor by 3,33x while fixing the HKs honor.
Double of now is still nothing.
Everybody is afking in BG since the change.
Why? Easy, the HKs give NOTHING.
The overall honor gain is laughable. You can farm hundreds of marks before having enough honor for 1 weapon.
On top of that the “fix” hammer came instantly while the laughable “buff” is delayed by another day, without even fixing the real issue.
The PvP scene hadn’t been as healthy as the first day of prepatch in YEARS, before the “fix” broke the honor system to pieces. 50-59 bgs were full, 60 bgs were full.
Since then we get NO honor from HKs & NO honor from objectives.
14 honor for a HWL solo kill
1 honor for a HWL kill in group
About 200 honor for a win in AB
BTW we have less than a 3rd of the original prepatch length, the honor values or prices of 60 gear should reflect that as well.
It is clear that you guys don’t play your own game. Can’t you see how much the PvP dropped since the “fix”?
People said Blizzard will ruin TBC before it even comes out and you’re actually doing it right there in prepatch.
Before Classic came out I was there to point out how crazy you guys were not to open French servers, and when you announce 1 PvP server I was there to say that there should be more.
Result -> Launch is atrocious, people start going on another server that OPENED at the last minute (or should I say hours after launch when people were still queueing…), groups of friends are split, HOURS & HOURS of queue to log in every day for WEEKS, some friends quit because it’s stupid to waste your time in queue. And then what? LAYERING!! But yeah it’s still #nochanges! /s
Why do you claim to “fix” the game without even knowing the real values? We are the one who endure the consequences and you always take half-assed measures to “fix” it.
We want an authentic experience where it matters, not where YOU think it matters.
Prepatch is a fun transition period, and you’re making it into a R14 grind for one piece of gear that gets replaced by greens. Let people get gear without it being unhealthy, so they can actually bring to life every aspect of the game, like the arena skirmishes, raids, dungeons, alt leveling, profession grinding…
If we get authentic, then the honor should be at least 3,33x what it is now while FIXING the HKs honor.
Yes an actual fix where you get more than 1honor for a kill & higher ranks give more honor, not a -90% nerf with no thoughts given based off a post of a lvl10 dickhead’s alt who is happy to have ruined days (or the whole prepatch?) of fun for the whole WoW community.
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weel sad bro but i dont think they even read them anymore we are talking with each other if everyone cancel(even %30) their sub. for 1 month if we organize than they will listen we will show what we want.
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Indeed.
We are complaining about overall honor gain. You said bonus honor is fine which is fine but HKs are not which affect overall honor gain. So overall honor gain is lower than it should.
Another thing that you troll doesnt get is that prepatch is shorter so we have shorter time to gather same ammount of honor ppl were able to back in the day. It either should be increased or prepatch shouls be longer.
Here goes one more whatever if bonus honor is accurate or not that bug and nerf made ppl afking in bgs as many ppl said in this thread. Afking shouldnt be more rewarding than playing.
Ques is another reason it should be increased. Dont start with its because yoy are olaying horde. No its not. First day AV que at 3am took 8min, today in middle of friday day it took 25min. And this conect with another point which is fun. It was fun and games should be fun. And no we cannot have fun anymore because we dont enjoy it. And no it isnt just my personal problem because 99% of playerbase is complaning about it ingame and on forums.
Tbc classic isnt tbc anymore so why for sake of fun cannot they let us go crazy and wild during prepatch. They didnt have any problem with introducing store mounts or boosts.
At least fix the damn HKs because its another day where we cannot get as much honor as we could. Honor should be increased too because of shorter prepatch.
By posting original honor gains you are destroying your own points. You say that we recive accurate honor points but in another sentence you write that HKs arent fixed so which one is it? Because by not getting accurate honor from HKs we cannot get accurat honor overall. What is so hard for you to get?
So yesbyou are troll.
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This is not enough, and you must realize that? The pre-patch is short enough as is and nerfing the honor can prove detremental to the playerbase, every hour, i read some post from someone who’s just had it and are now unsubbing multiple accounts because of this. In the grand scheme of things this is a small thing, but it is the last straw for many and i have to admit i’m hovering the unsub button myself.
You need to take this seriously and respect your playerbase who pay 15$ a month, if this sort of behaviour continues i fear you may have a mass exodus from the game, people will look for greener pastures, and there are atleast 3 options to WoW and Classic at this point, they are very real competitors, and if you keep this up people will find other places to spend their money.
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They already sold many “dark portal passes” and “deluxe editions” so they don’t care I guess. It’s already made them money for the end of the financial quarter so the CEO is happy & the shareholders too they about to get the bonus.
Just like the report said: subs down but profits up.
They kept Classic up with no GM, basically no support, we pay them 13€ a month for no support on a game that released 15years ago which we helped finance back then.
No wonder people walk away. It is so far from the Blizzard that gave out one day of game time whenever they messed up an update(like two days ago?).
But since 98% of the original team quit or got fired it’s no surprise I guess 
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I play game since I member. Tbc classic is my last journey. Screw them.
I have no idea how can they ruin everything they touch lately. Even backwards in old game. They had 1 simple job. Release old game as it was. Maybe add some minor balancing tweak like those paladin seals. But no, they have to mess with things influencing core stuff and make things worse like always when they fix problems which are not there. God forbid people had fun gearing in prepatch catching up gear which will be useles in few weeks anyway.
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So what ? Meaning at some point you can complain because there are too much boosties in your BG so it reduce the HK because they have no rank ?
Players behavior. Meaning they clearly don’t want to play and have fun and only care about getting gear even if it mean not playing.
If it doesn’t affect the 70 gear. I wouldn’t mind.
But getting players used to “huge” rate will just make them more complain when the proper rate will be applied during TBC.
Because the x2/x4 is temporary and as they said it’s gonne be removed in TBC.
Like now they experienced 10x rates 1 day they are addicted and want it to be revert and not actually fixed.
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So you are not complaining about short prepatch itself but only about honour rates, and why should Blizzard comply? Well I think prepatch too short for me to lvl up my paladin and get Jewelcrafting to 300 skill, should they also make xp rates 4.5 because prepatch is shorter?
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lol you all gotta face it eventually.
Blizzard messed up both the prepatch time before tbc, the honor nerf, bg kicking you out. And lots of other bugs, you wont get any “we messed up, we are sorry” sentence from them for any of it.
And dont expect them to admit that honor kills are to low either, its just not in this type of companys nature.
And not even doing a server restert before the normal, after “hotfixing” mid prime time, just left me speechless in how ignorant they seem to be at this point.
They went hiding, not giving anything constructive comments after they messed up. So dont expect this to be fixed anytime soon, there wont be no “we are looking in to it” or anything alike.
Eventually tbc will release and the community will start to level etc…and this will be history probably with a slight footnote somewhere in the future.
Fix your mess and show some balls Blizzard.
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Ok im done you are just too stupid.
I clearly proved that overall honor gain is lower and you responded with “so what”. If you dont see anything wrong with gaining less honor then we shouls you shouldnt be talking at all.
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