Dual spec is indeed convenient. But convenience is not always a good thing.
So when it comes to TBC…that would be a solid no to dualspeccing from me.
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Think about it. All you do is increase the amount of Tanks and Healers making dungeon grinding even smoother.
Cant find a tank? oh… Ask him to respecc and spend 50 gold ooooorr ask him to click that button and just go.
See the opportunistic greatness
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yeah, that would in fact convice more poeple to tank and make dungeons happen. And while we at it, lets back this up with the LFG/LFR tool, so you can convice even more people into dungeons, because you can get there instantly, and why we at that, lets make transmog a thing, so there is even more reason to go into specific dungeons, because there is maybe a cool helmet or dagger that you like. It make sense, right ?
If this makes sense to you, i have crazy news for you today. There is game that has all of that, and you can play it RIGHT NOW. Its called World of Warcraft - Shadowlands, or retail wow.
It was a plessure and have fun ^^
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We can afford it.
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I always grin when I see this argument being made.
Because, well, tanks are the bottleneck in retail as well…which not only has dualspec, but completely free respec, an interface that supports it natively, and 2x as many classes that can tank.
That being said, I have been ambivalent on Dual Spec for TBC for a while now;
I see how it would take away two things I see as very important for the games health: A steady goldsink (which I believe should have become more costly, what with making gold being much easier), and a level of class-identity. After all, I am not just a warlock…I will be a mother-f_in-Felguard-Taming-DEMOLOCKSTRAIGHTFROMHELLYEAHBABBYYYY! (at least in P1 and 2 until first Affli and then Destro start scaling way better, and 5mans become less relevant 
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However, it is undeniably a feature that we salivated over when it was announced for WotLK back in the day, and with good reason…it is a pleasure to have.
So I was thinking…what if Dual spec did exist, but with steep restrictions? First, there would ofc be a cost involved to get it, which could be both a gold investment (2k+ roundabouts) as well as a quest chain that has to be completed first, involving getting raiddrops, some heroic-timeruns, and materials from crafting professions.
And then, the actual dualspec cannot be used at will either…it has a long (about 3h) cooldown and requires a class trainer to use. And in addition, what with the mind of the character having dualspec now being more difficult to reset, respeccing either of the 2 specs could now cost 100g instead of 50.
Would that be an acceptable way to go about it, what are your thoughts?
Except that the DPS you are asking to Tank doesnt use his Dual Spec for a Tanking-spec but another DPS spec for Arena.
And we are back to square one.
The shortage of Tanks has little to do with specs, because nobody needs a fully optimized Tank in a Dungeon, and alot to do with people not wanting responsibility, getting yelled at and blamed, but also wanting to pewpew brainlessly while watching something else on the other screen. Since Tanking takes just a little more thought, 95% of the people who could have tanked dont do it.
Ive seen Warriors yell their brains away LF a Tank to some random Phase 1 Dungeon instead if doing it themselfs…
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You wont see the opportunity because you’re more interested in the few idiots than the mass.
So that was it? That was your great argument for Dual Spec which you dropped as soon as somebody questioned it a bit?
At least be frank and say it like it is, you want Dual Spec because you want to be able to be lazy and both have the cookie and eat it. Dont pretend it somehow is better for the game, apart from a individual egocentric perspective.
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If this is a serious question the answer will be pretty short. I dont what it to be changed, because it would be for individual reasons. So, the game adapte to the player, wich should be the player adapte to the game.
The individual demand and - making the game changing to suit the player agenda - is the whole reason classic changed to retail. (Its like going to a chinese restaurant and demanding a whooper while waving with 50 USW . Even tho there would be some changes taht could make the game more fun (imo) i would prever no changes to anything because i like to game how it is, even tho its no perfect.
This would be highly unlikely since arms PvP spec does well in pve DPS having a prot spec makes much more sense. almost all paladins who have no interest in PvP will have a prot offspec since it will be good boosting spec for making money and quick dungeons. I mean sure you might have someone who goes pve and PvP dps specs but that number will be very small there is no doubt duel spec will bring more tank and healers
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Fair enough. In the end, if someone wants to respec regularly in TBC, the game supports it anyway, albeit in another fashion. With respec costs not increasing past the 50g mark, and daily quests allowing for a steady gold influx without too much hassle, no one can say that respeccing regularly is too expensive.
I know I will probably do it on this character, because while affliction, and later destro will be the goto raidspecs, I love the hell outta Demonology, and will play it whenever I’m not in a raid 
And the small issue with action-bars not switching to another set of spells on respec, is easily solveable with some addons.
Yeah, this is the main reason i think we allmost have dualspec in tbc, its not as the one in retail, but its kinda manageable. 100% agree.
We have the same taste, i even wanna change to alliance lel, ofc i go the way with the most dmg, but i like demo or affli more than destro in classic and tbc. This will change with cata, but we are not there yet 
I have no idea how deep a dive you did into the TBC Warlock specifics so far, but I think I got good news for you:
- Destro is cr4p in the beginning, both Affliction and Demonology are way stronger (yes, also in Raids)
- Demonology is hands-down the most overpowered dps spec in 5mans, not just because the Felguards cleave dps are great, but it also sports the highest amount of spellpower via Demonic Knowledge, with which Seed scales very well
- There will always be a requirement for at least one Affliction lock throughout the expansion, due to Malediction & Shadow Embrace, and while not the top dogs of the meter, their dps is still VERY good
Lastly, if you haven’t the Black Book from Razorgore yet, GET IT NOW 
Despite it’s classic tooltip, it works on the felguard in TBC (albeit slightly nerfed), and the buff stays on after activation, so a makro can fire the thing, and then switch to another trinket before pull, making this an extremely good DPS boost in P1 & 2
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yeah i kinda knew that, but thank you for outlining this. I have the book and this char, but not on the alli ^^
oh i wasnt aware of that, i would just have used it as a on use trinket. But i never used that thing in classic, but it has a VERY SPECIAL PLACE in my bank
some of you still about the #nochanges you aint learn it from classic still ? Dual spec is not in any way harm the game or ruin players gametime… its quality change.
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I did not want dual spec in vanilla classic, and I don’t want it in TBC classic either.
I am actually planning to have two resto druids, one for raiding and one for arena.
For me this is fun and it retains their character identity for me.
And don’t get me wrong it’s not like dual spec is a horribly bad feature. But for me it’s against what I want from MMO:s. I like having to do meaningful choices regarding my characters instead of them just being capable of doing everything by default.
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Your point makes no sense because we anyway have the opportunity to just walk up to a trainer and change speciality at any time. So you don’t actually have to make a meaningful choice right away. You can do whatever you want without thinking, and then just unlearh your talents.
If you want a meaningful choice it would make much more sense to give 2 spec, but at the same time to make the reset talent are very expensive, like 3000 gold for example, or make the condition of completing some difficult quest for this. So you would be forced to make a meaningful choice once for both specializations, couse change it would be very hard.
The way it works now makes no sense, because you can still change talents as you want and it does not require any effort from you, no knowledge, no special conditions, but it just takes time every time to go to the trainer and it’s very annoying
Dual spec would be a massive QoL improvement for literally everyone.
Have a pve and a pvp spec, or a pvp and farm spec, or a pve and farm spec, or a dps/tank, dps/heal, tank/heal setup.
I don’t give a hoot about the respec costs, but the convenience of swapping to another spec and having bars and hotkeys change with it is massive.
They can leave it at the WoTLK cost (1000g) too, or perhaps a bit more considering the gold in circulation now compared to original wotlk launch.
And of course the costs to re-spec the specs in the dual spec setup retain their normal costs.
Please consider this!
21k sample poll shows it’s a popular QoL feature:
If needed, create your own poll for all players to fill in to get a much larger sample
smh you guys are advocating for ruining the game step by step.
i’ll be surprised if TBCC is even recognizable as the game its suppose to be by the end of it.
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AKA Draenei
AKA Spacegoat
So yeah