Echoing Void over nerfed?

One of the huge example of why I don’t tank too. I can barely even see in that dungeon.

100% agree.

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40% dmg from corruption where?
I got a rank 2 EV and despite health being 700k+, overall of a an entire dungeon, EV it’s around 8% of my dmg. Still high but nowhere near that devastating and in line with searing breath.

Was talking about TD.

I really wish we could stop this mentality of nerfing anything strong instead of bringing the weak procs in line with the strong.

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1.4m metamorphosis dh disagrees

You can not just simply buff things every single time something happens.
Also what do you think is easier nerf 1 thing or buff something like 20 things?
Keep in mind if you buff one of those a little to much following your way of thinking they would have to buff all the others again to get up to that same level and so on.

At the end of the expansion yes, buffing the others is always preferable compared to blizzards scorched earth nerf approach. It’s not a mild tuning, they always nerf stuff in a scorched earth method.

At the end of the expansion we are supposed to be powerful since once the new expansion comes around that power slowly fades away as we level up to the new cap.

Why is this even an argument? Dps have devastation, infinte stars and gushing wounds as their dps corruptions and they are doing perfectly fine with them.

Sure, EV hast lost most of it’s potential for dps but here’s an idea: What if that was the point? What if it was the base idea to have a Corruption specifically designed for Tanks so they can reliably keep aggro against dps going ham with devastation etc? Couldn’t possibly be that Blizzard designed things like that on purpose, could it?

You mean how they physically had to make phases on Garrosh in MoP because they ran into the limitations of 32bit systems?
It is not remotely close to a scorched earth situation
Just buffing things is not as easy as you seem to think.

Do tell how you would keep ALL THE corruptions balanced AND buffing all of them. Not just the ones you like but all of them in all situations.

I’m not looking at this from a programmer perspective but as a customer and a player perspective. Constant nerfing is never a good thing.

Also i don’t know how to keep everything perfectly balanced since that’s impossible but blizzard sure as **** doesn’t know balance. Some things will always be stronger than others and what exactly is wrong with that?

So what if TD, IS and former EV was stronger than everything else, nothing is ever perfectly balanced in this game and nothing will ever be balanced.

Finally got my hands on an Echoing Void piece, and it’s doing ~900 damage in PvP, lul
it’s so bad

well it was just in the mind to be for the tanks but was so powerfull that even dps was able to use it

hence the nerf

And now not even tanks want it … ? :stuck_out_tongue:

more than enough Tanks want it. It doesn’t do the damage of Devastation but so what? it’s Aggro insurance. TD is a gamble. it either proccs or it doesn’t. IS needs to build up. Gushing Wounds is rare as fu*k and has no use in AoE. EV is consistent. You’re not gonna out dps the dps but you don’t need to. That’s not your job. And you can still stack a TD on top of the EV if you do want the dmg.

Every time something like this happens, people get greedy. Because of a balancing issue, Tanks could to Bananas dmg in m+ for a short time and now people think they are entitled to do the dmg. Thing is though, Damage is on the lower end of a Tank’s priority list. Even in M+. A tank that does tons of dmg but can’t hold aggro against dps doing the same because his gamble corruption didn’t procc that pull isn’t worth sh*t.

The Tank’s job is to set the pace of the dungeon, keeping in mind how far he can push the healter with that, controlling the mobs, keeping them together, pushing himself to the limit of what his survivability can handle but not past that and only then comes damage.

Don’t know all my tank alts have wounds or devastation - except that one monk that actually raids. I am not sure how rare it would be in grand scheme of things if random alts that do the lone alliance weapon emissary (like we’ve had one and half)

Not really sure what your point is there. What does the weapon emmisary on alts have to do with what corruptions tanks wear? :thinking:

Let’s look at a hypothetical situation: What happens when you’re in, let’s say, an M+13 anything, you go pull a group and the dh pops off with eye beam while his TD proccs and yours as a tank doesn’t? He’s gonna pull aggro off of you unless you pulled with a dmg cd. And he’s dead in less then 2 GCD’s. That would be your fault as a Tank for going with TD over EV because you’re greedy for dmg.

There is no point in doing high dmg as a tank if it’s not reliable. If even one dps dies due to something like that, whether it a procc or not, the tank f*cked up hard. Be it rng related or not. It’s the Tanks responsibility, and his alone, to hold aggro no matter what the dps do, accidental taunts excluded. You can do that with EV. You can’t with TD.

You said that they are rare, i say that it does not feel rare. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Not corruptions as a whole, Gushing Wounds. Don’t know if your friends just got lucky or if they bought it on the AH but out of all Corruptions, Gushing Wounds is the rarest. Every randomly occuring Corruption has 3 ranks, but not GW. It has only one. So when an Item corrupts, there’s only a 1 in 51 chance that it becomes GW, because as far as i know, counting all ranks, there’s 51 corruptions

475 with echoing void sims less than 475 without corruption for both single target and aoe so yeah idk