Economy crash on Annyversary relams!

Well, as the title says, we are being hit by extreme prices on the Annyversary realms that are getting out of hand. I don’t know how it is on the hc and pvp server but the pve server is getting more expensive every day.

For example, black lotus reaches 120g and wisdom flask 200g, mongoose 9g etc. If you want to raid, you better be up at midnight to farm like crazy until morning so you can afford consumes for raid because during the day you can’t farm because bots and honestly even bots are not a problem. Issue is people who are now buying gold more often since there is no GDKP, they are holding AH atm.

Nobody wants to farm all day so they can buy one raid flask, it’s a question of whether you can do it because many people have jobs, families and this game has become a second unpaid job.

Solution to this… Since there is no gdkp people will always buy gold no matter what, but now most likely more often than before with it… Give us some currency like tarnished coin and vendor for black lotus other mats that are required for consum - crafting

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And this is exactly the issue.

People want to play classic, but they don´t want to actually do any of the things that make classic classic. be it due to time restraints or laziness is irrelevant, point is they´d rather swipe than play so that they can rush.

So they buy gold, enabling the botting mafia and thereby forcing everyone else to either do the same or get left behind, an then they complain about prices skyrocketing when every level 10 is already swiping for his level 60 mount if not l70 flying in 9 months.

At this point, classic anniversary is a nothing more than case study in why people that buy gold should be instantly banned. Because it has absolutely noting at all to do with why people asked for classic anymore, much less teh feel and vibe of the game. It´s jsut trying to rush faster than the last time, sparing no expense to do so.

but at least it significantly reduced teh Botting problems on Era, so I guess thank you? :beers:

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Exactly this …they dont want Classic at all. They want so called “quality of life” what retail offers. Boosts, free Gear, fast leveling. Why do they Play Classic at all then ?

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I dont think it would be a problem without accelerated release schedule. Now many players are rushing to do content and swiping. A recipe for disaster. I smelled this far away and never left era 1 year is not nearly enough time for classic

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I agree.

But on the other hand, we had to deal with the “Make everything into a rush” crown on era too after a few months.

For my part, I´m mostly just glad they´re all gona and playing anniversary, so that we once again have teh chill, slower paced game we wanted again wheile they keep smashing their heads against a paywall trying to 3 chest anniversary :stuck_out_tongue:

i almost wish those were the prices on the pvp server.
last night mongose price were at 20g per elixir, firewater 25g flasks around 400g. ony scale cloak around 200g and so on

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im guessing the main problem is the bots and Blizzards reluctance to actualy do anything about it.

No, Its not the bots! Its the community

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And why are the bots there?

It´s entirely because people want to buy gold instead of earning it themselves.

A simpler cause = effect relationship is hard to find, because the gold they want to buy has to come from somewhere, and it´s certainly not being generated by other players equally refusing to play the majority of the game simply because all they want to do is rush to endgame to secure the world 1236981672359th /Anniversary first Kill on Boss X :wink:

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It actually saddens me because I primarily love Era (Pyrewood :revolving_hearts:), but I also love the idea of playing TBC Classic again. The problem is, when I step back and really visualize what that would mean now, it barely resembles what I experienced in 2007 (which was the case for 2019 TBC as well).

Yes, gold sellers existed back then too, but the key difference? We had the will and energy to engage with the game as it was designed. There was no overwhelming rush unless you were part of a serious raid progression guild, and even those were relatively few on each server.

Fast forward to today, and as others have pointed out, the community mindset has shifted. The retail/modern day mentality has seeped into how we play. Zoomers have little patience for the grind + boomers have little time to spend on it.

And here we are, a clash of mindsets and priorities, trying to make it work somehow, while Blizzard has long since thrown in the towel on botting and RMT.

I think I’ll just stick to Era whenever I get the itch for Classic, it’s the closest thing to a pristine WoW experience we have left.

And I really hope it stays that way.

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TBC classic release felt close to OG for about one hour in Hellfire Pen. There was an iirc hunter that was completely irate about a rogue running around in stealth and killing mobs before he could, mking it impossible for him to kill his 8 orcs. And he just kept getting more and more angry…

He was flaming him so hard in /1, and getting flamed back and laughed at by half the server, because he just adamantly refused to group up with the rogue despite being sent multiple invites “Because it´s less effective”, that for that one hour it really did feel like I was back in 2007 :rofl:

I think the story even found its way onto Preach´s dramatime segment soon after :stuck_out_tongue:

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I presume ur on pve because flasks are much higher on pvp. like double.

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I love watching classic Andies realising they actually want tons of QOL features that were added in WoW’s lifetime and their small “no changes” vision shattering.

Thank god I don’t play vanilla anymore, it’s such a mess a poopoo right now.
The only viable classic experience was HC but even this was ruined by streamers.

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You don’t need them, you can clear raids without.

It´s actually fine as long as you (can) ignore the community of cryhards, boostees and swipers.

For ex HC in SSF mode, or simply running around reliving experiences from 20 years ago and reminiscing about “oh, yeah, that used to be a thing” :wink:

Classic is like the USA, or Bavaria… a wonderful and beautiful place to be, the problem is the people that live there :rofl:

(that was a joke, for all of those without any sense of humor that want to report me for being racist or whatever.)

Its not the bots that are to blame its the stupid mega server with layers.

Its simple economics - supply and demand

The supply is far to low for the demand due to layering, when everyone is playing theres 6 layers sometimes 7 on pvp server and yet in off times theres 3 layers which are all full, therefore theres 3 layers of herbs trying to supply 6 layers of raiders it doesnt work

Blizzard needs to increase the flow of herbs into the game all be it via herb crates or faster respawns or more spawn points

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If not every mentally challenged wannabe raid leader would demand everyone brings a flask to intercoursing MOLTEN CORE, the demand for flasks wouldn’t be so high and the prices wouldn’t be that way either.

But here is the trick when you don’t want to pay 300 gold for a flask.
Don’t. Use. Flasks.

I don’t think anyone is demanding flasks for MC unless you’re in like the most hardcore guild on the server and are speedrunning. Especially because 80% of the DPS literally don’t benefit from them (no useful flasks for physical damage dealers). Flasks are probably demanded for tanks in prog guilds but I’m sure those resources for it are provided by the guild. I honestly think you’re just making up scenarios that in reality dont exist to the extent you’re projecting. People are definitely popping flasks more than necessary but it isn’t something that’s expected by guilds. Maybe you’re on era?

I think an important contributor to gold prices are boosting. You guys do realize that 30 minutes boosting as a mage can easily net you 500g? Most people aren’t even buying 60 mounts they’re just getting them from pvp as participation trophies.

And where did the gold to pay for the boosts probably come from? Especially if “nobody” is farming mats anymore because bots have overrun everything?
Esp considering that back in OG nobody had 125g to pay for a boost at the levels where boosing is still possible and /or common,

Hint: It all cycles back to the same root cause :beers:

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