FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GUYS PLEASE VOTE SEASON 2 I HATE THIS SET OF S3 PLEASE 
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what your saying one trillion percent false sir and what’s the difference between spaming CL or LB at least your AOE dmg isn’t based on 6 target FS target!!
Unfortunately people here fail to realize that damage numbers are subject to balance changes and not tier sets per-se. I would love to see y’all run s2 tier with current earthquake tuning - you’d be literally dead last and you’re coping if you think that it’s just tier sets. It’s quite funny how the biggest s2 supporters are those who peak at 1500 io and 7/9 normal
i think you fail to understand S2 playstyle had better uncapped aoe with + crit that is essential to the build also scales with EQ
S2 was the best one.
I don’t know why people are voting for 3.
season 3 all the way! i love this m+ playstyle and still very strong in ST raid
agree with this 100% S3 is is simply amazing for m+ and ive never been beat on council (3 targets) atleast in my raids, ST is just as good as amy other set to. its a no brainer for S3
S3 is far better and much more fun to play. we wasnt picked for high keys before now. If you check dps ranks eles are on the rise due to to this season (5th i believe), i would happily play S3 bonus forever… flameshock - magma totem - primodial wave - unleash the lv’bs & eq’s. It’s so much more fun to play than any season i have ever played before and ive played since 2004…
thats not to mention raids, the movement & dps we have (with spiritwalkers grace on cd) we can still spam dps on the move.
100% S3 for me
Are you doing 2+ keys or what, because i dont see how a pack is dead before you cadt what i wrote. As i stated i am currently doing keys of 22-23, ilvl 482, and i have always been very competent as i stated, usually being the top dps. You also have to look at the fact that your damage isnt that limited to 6 as you have eq which deals flat damage no matter how much targets it hit. Once you ramp up haste from primordial wave, accompanied with stormkeeper you can set up 6 yo 8 earthquakes very quickly and still top dps on packs of more than 6. Your arguments about defensives, utilites etc. are somewhat correct but we are talking about tier set and damage here, as you stated “competing for tank dps” or whatever. You’re clearly playing the class wrong somehow. If we are gonna talk about extremely high keys then yeah ele isnt quite good, but is anything good in them except the MeTa? I checked your character and your top keys are mostly +20 so im not sure as to what you’re complaining about, if you struggle to be competent that is completely your issue as ele on +20s is pure gold, easily outdpsing the MeTa classes. Who knows, maybe flame shocking 6 mobs is too challenging for you 
People are just too lazy to keep 6 flameshocks, they would rather spam chain lighting
This is the dude that called my shaman aka me a casual player. It genuinely seems like he gave up before learning how to play in m+
i do 20keys for gear for raid don’t need to play higher or push higher that’s the gear cap and what i play for minimal requirement for maximum gear for raiding as you can tell by my raiding logs are 99in hc and current average in mythic is 94
i never stated “competing for tank dps” that was someone else’s post - what i noticed about your post of “Use chain lighting two times on pack, use earthquake, use flame shock to flame shock 2 ppl, primordial wave 3rd, magma totem for the other 3. press lava burst 3 times, top dps” this isn’t how you should be playing the open to your build its liquid - primordial - flame shock - 6 targets flame shocked in half the time of your opening then proceed to lavaburst - but this still doesn’t “top dps” there are many other class’s with alot more burst dps on big packs and will pull a lot more dps then ele, as ele is sustained dps
and it was Xinkachu that said “If you think what prevents ele shaman from competing with metas in high keys is our damage, then I can safely say that you have never played high keys and have no idea how high key works.”
-why i responded to as to why shamans are not meta in keys
when you say “For all those of you who are crying for s2 and s1 because you say s3 is weak, get off this class and go play something else, you clearly dont know what you’re doing.” but you don’t even know the quickest way of applying 6flameshocks and would tell people to chain lighting twice before setting up the flame shock clearly shows how casual you really are and how much little thought process you have put into min maxing your class. i guess you just play with other players that do low dps while playing meta class’s but any half decent bm hunter/dh would wipe the floor with an ele shaman while being 5-10ilvl behind
With EQ buffs we can now nailed everyone in AOE with S1 or S2 sets 
S2 is better cuz of free Stormkeeper
Why even argue about how good ele is. I don’t think the numbers care about your personal anecdote, and the numbers are down bad my dude
I think a lot of people are missing the point or haven’t read the post. The best one to vote for is season 1.
That’s because Blizzard have said they will balance the tier set, bringing the damage up if and when needed. Season 3 forces us to play fire builds, season 2 lightning builds. But season 1 you can play either, or a mixture of both. We have much more variety of builds and play styles with season 1.
How ever looking at the current votes that’s not going to happen. So I would then support season 2. A lot of people are voting season 3 because it’s live now, they won’t have to change anything which makes it ‘easier’. But season 2 is a better set than season 3, especially as Fated seasons see a lot more participation in M+ than raids. I have mained ele shaman since 8.3, but this is all my humble opinion.
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if nothing else, this “fire vs lightning beef” is peak content 
Damn so even when i play the class wrong i still do good and you’re here complaining because you went to wowhead and saw the dps charts. Grow a pair and enjoy the class, its amazing. I wholeheartedly blame any poor performance on you, not the class. You call me a very casual player who didnt put much thought into min maxing; dude, stop embarassing yourself, you said it yourself, you do minimum keys for maximum gear, as someone already said it, you dont push ele to its potential. If you are gonna stand here and say that hundreds of people including meta classes i have easily performed better than, are just very bad or low ilvl, then idk anymore. It works, its good, its not the best, but in no way is it bad. And i apologise for calling you out on something someone else said
no people are annoyed by magma totem being on a 1min cd and manually shocking targets takes forever. so you either have to delay pmw or blast it into 2 targets.
also earthquake is the worst spell
tiny radius, garbage visual, terrible dmg because highly stackable thanks to overflowing resources.
earthquake should just be deleted and earth shock should hit 8 target or uncapped or whatever. or add magma shock or whatever that costs 100 ms and blasts uncapped targets for whatever.
totem should have 20s cd, doesnt do dmg anyways so what gives?
Yeah i agree, its a bit tedious when tank moves trash out of our eq, it shouldnt be removed, i would rather make it stick on a mob and cause it to do aoe around that mob. As for flame shock its not that tedious, atleast to me, but lowering magma totems cd would be highly appreciated. Your magma shock idea sounds really cool tho
Someone doesnt know how to play the class and sucks in m+
What I find most infuriating about these tier sets is that we was sold a promise. That promise was that the new trees would allow us to play the way we want to play, which in themselves they do. But when you spin in tier sets, you’re forcing a particular play style. This can now be reserved by allowing us to play with all 3 tier sets, allowing us to play the way we want to play. I know you won’t do this, for balancing etc… but again, false promises.
Season 2 tier for elemental was the best tier, we was competitive in all aspects. Right now, I feel elemental in pve content is truly so far behind, wether people above disagree I don’t care…on my warlock 486 item level I can do 70–100k more overall DPS than the shaman, and I’ve played shaman since the dawn of time… I picked up warlock this expansion. It’s sad, unless we have some extreme buffs for our aoe, how we spread flame shocks then the class is dead for S4 with T3 set.
Edit - I’m referring to m+. Raids & PvP S3 appears to be good. But S2 shaman in PvP was good too, but our ST was a little weak. Raid cd would combat this.
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