so according to you calling out one of best aoe specs in game for being below tank on aoe pulls is being toxic 
i have seen BM hunters doing more aoe then that particular person last reset - and this tell a lot
god i love those forums 
God you are dense and you refuse to even see the general picture.
1st. There is a difference when you say:
“Look lad. This dps wont cut it for a +10” and “OmgEz learn to play u disabled 
, Was your parents 
when they had you?!”
Tank accidently pulls 1 extra pack
“We dont need that pack for %”. versus “omgez u 
damaged monkey learn your route u noob”
2nd. Well guess what Mr. NervermadeAMistakeInHisEntireLife Lililth. Maybe it comes as surprise to you but humans can make mistakes. Even your best MDI player can sometimes sneeze at the wrong moment. Getting wished to have “a deadly disease” on you because you got distracted for 0.5 sec away from the monitor is the norm in the pugging scene… sadly.
P.s Hopefully I dont get sent off to a forum vacation by the mildest examples I could think off but honestly, I simply see no other way to get my point through your thick skull Lillith.
Indeed Lillith… indeed.
Main problem with M+is they have upped Gilded/Myth crests to +9, and without them you can only upgrade Hero gear to 4/6, which is the same as 8/8 Champion.
Veteran → Hero gearing is smooth.
Hero → Myth gear is extremely steep, and it’s stopping people from progressing.
If Gilded Crests started dropping at +7 that would at least open up a route to the top end of Hero gear before you start getting Myth.
Which makes sense because 5/6 and 6/6 Hero gear require Gilded Crests.
Without Gilded Crests Hero gear is no better than Champion.
doing 200-300k dps in aoe pull in 600 + itlv gear cannot be described as mistake.
thats not "waht you do in +10 " number - thats what you do in +4 numbers
its ok if you enjoy carrying people - but with this tuning - its quite often simple impossible to complete keys with people like this.
i have yet to see anyone complaiing about tank pulls in +4 or +5 . i have seen though tanks ignoring the advise to pull 1 -2 packs more and then you end up with like 95% trash on last boss. and yet nobody said anything.
in +10 ? peopel have full right to complain as those keys are very dancerous with +7 and fortified affixes combined.
You don’t say “look lad”, you should say “look my old chap” lmao
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They need to adjust the reward structure if they’re keeping the key scaling as it is.
Move gilded crests to +8
Move myth track vault gear to +9
Portals at 10
myth track end of run from +12’s
This stops hero gear being stuck at 4/6 due to 9’s being a huge jump from 7’s in difficulty so partially removes the road block people are facing.
Also:
stop casters from instantly re-casting when interrupted or stopped (they removed this in DF because they acknowledged there just wasn’t the stops or interrupts available for everything)
fix the xalatath affixes.
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All the cool and relaxed players are doing delves so all thats left is the sweat and salt crew
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Again you are mising the point.
Its not the point that people perform in different levels.
Its the fact that even the slighest deviation from standard performance results in a barrage of insults. Got an m+ friend who started to tank and almost quit m+ after giving it a shot. Was simply bombarded with insults left and right and the end of the dungeon people “wished that he was never born”. Manage to convince him for a 2nd shot with us and restore some faith in humanity.
Now try to get through that skull of yours:
I AM NOT AGAINST PEOPLE COMPLAINING BUT HOW THEY COMPLAIN.
You can voice your displeasure without making the guy feel lower than a cockroach which to squish and spit on for an extra good meassure.
You can complain while remaining a descent human being not a wild rabbit animal who just broke his chains and rampaging through at anyone who looks at him funny.
Even I have left keys which are hopeless but without “wishing death to the person who in my views underperformed.”
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first of all they wouldnt hear anything form me because i play with disabled in game chats since i got reported by trolls for writing “i cba with this dps” - i only communicate with people via pings. (and yeah only ping i miss from perfection is ping for bl calling )
2nd of all - jezus who do you play with ? or how much you have to extrapolate you own feelings - in years of playing m+ , in thousands of dungeons i did i have never once seen anyone behaving like you desribed.
Yeah that’s very true. People can’t control their emotions at all in groups. If I’m tanking and someone is rude to me, I just leave the key.
It’s almost like you can’t make any mistake tanking, without some idiot dps typing rudeness in chat.
People can’t seem to understand that it’s group content and everyone needs each other to finish the key. Many people seem to think they are bigger than the key, it makes no sense and they’re only hurting their own progression.
People should just not type their anger in chat, because it just tilts the group and highly likely ruins the key.
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people who cant control their emotions in a video game should not enter any group content
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Yet they do regularly
This season is the perfect example of the phrase “if something ain’t broke, don’t fix it”, aka don’t try to reinvent the wheel that was already rolling.
Tho it also comes to it that at least 3 Dungeons make my stomach acid come up immediately. (Tirna, Boralus, Batol)
Hopefully they get their s…tuff together for S2.
lol mists especially cause you know they can’t dps the first boss fast enough on tyran, or they waste time on the maze, or wipe twice on second boss, and the key is over.
I have also been a full time pugger since bfa s1 at least.
And my golden rules where:
- Dont say anything. You dont know anything, you didnt hear anything.
- If there is toxicity around, pretend you didnt see it and carry on.
Putting your head in the sand and ignoring the problem, will sadly not make it go away Lilith.
Indeed. Especially since everyone can make mistakes from time to time. Easy to rage when you are not on the receiving end of it.
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It makes no sense to me, especially as a dps:
- go through a lot of applications and get a load of decline, decline, decline
- Get into a group but then start raging at someone in chat
- Key disbands and you’re stuck at the same key level and never progress
- Repeat
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mists is exactly the same as it was in SL.
and yeah - there is a reaosn why back then most people took mandatory mage + boomkin for burts dps on tyranical weeks there
M+ has been dead content since years ago. If you are only playing M+, then ofc the season 1 ends.
M+ has not been dead content wtf u on about
i played one key this season. just to see. its awefull. that is why i personally dont play keys or raids above LFG. fact is, you are not cut out of any content if you do dungeons on normal, raid on lfg and delvs t1
there is really no point in pushing your gear (for me). the amount of time and energy to do the same content just harder with more toxic ppl for the same stuff just higher gear? really no point for me anymore. i am not complaining. i enjoyed it really well.
esp. the delves, they are great. no i am i think ilvl 611 or so and i just do my 4-8 delves a week by my self just to pick soemthing from the vault. otherwise leveling my engi skill.
if you are out to max your ilvl every season, you are in for a hard ride but you do you.
good for u to step out. c u in s2 when the new current gear is worldquest reward 