Well they used to be powerful until flame breath and scarlet nerf and 20% mana cost on living flame heals.
Now they just suck. Under 1% of the specs in highrated pvp is devastation.
They need a buff in survival for real. Dispell protection, defensives useable while cced, a disarm, shortened selfheal cds and living flame while moving.
I love all races but Dracthyr kinda look like Alexstraza’s corrupted eggs hatched (sorry)
They pretty much are.
You do realise, the game is more (WAY MORE) than PvP, right? 
They could have looked way better… the fact many people would rather play them in their humanoid form speaks volumes.
Yes, in a game where there is a constant effort to bring balance. Otherwise middle of the pack means subpar because the ones above will stay above.
I can play evoker just fine thank you.
It is not a dragon, it is a fire breathing lizardman.
Touch the ones above.
Look, if we keep buffing things up from the middle we’re not going to get balance - we just keep changing what’s overpowered. This is ridiculously stupid, I’m sorry. Don’t do that!
Doesn’t sound Like it. Not that it surprises me, almost noone can. That’s the whole thing. The darn class has been out for a few months. You should’ve seen mage players in classic when it has been out for a few months, it was pathetic. They just flopped trying to hard cast pyroblasts at rogues.
No they won’t die, just because you say it, doesn’t make it so!
I am just curious, please post on a devastation evoker with high ratings that is still played and still win games on arena or rated bgs as devoker spec even after the nerfs.
I need to look at the build and learn.
Are you familiar with check-pvp?
But if everyone is super, then nobody is super 
Only the NPCs have something to lose.
Well enough joking, it is just that nerf sound worse than buffs imho
Vurtne had the mages figured out quite fast though. But it was a time where information was not as readily available.
Devokers can get the job done but they might be the most cooldown dependent class ever right now. They are kind of the 3 min mages of the past eras, but with 28 yard range and less CC.
The NPC’s can be tuned, too.
But yea, it’s true - if everything is balanced nobody are overpowered. How horrible. 
Oh I am just curious if people here play evokers themselves. As they say its great, they might main one.
Interesting that only 4 devokers are above 2k,
compared to 80 havoc dhs:0
I got mine to lvl 68 and got bored as it seemed to be going no where, plus I hate that you are told your visage is a self expression yet you are locked to mal BE or female human body types only… Killed it for me. Female human casting animations are dire.
Imagine portraying PVP as the most played and importnant gametype…
Guardian druid isnt even played in pvp XD
So is PvP unbearable to druids?
Well it feels like crap that devastation evokers are f tier in many aspects while havoc demon hunters are so much better.
Havoc dhs have been good for a long time and in legion they shined very well.
Devastation evokers is the main dps spec of the expansion and people are making druids or something instead because devastation evokers are mid-tier at best in fights that are made for them it seems.
It hurts to see 0 deva in world first and to seen just 4 devastations with decent ratings… what should I say.
Yes they are decent in m+ I guess because the aoe they have is amazing tho but the way they st or pvp feels so off to me:/ it sucks being in Ashran with 25 yd spells while still being the victim of getting globalling, stuns and interrupts.
Havoc is the bane of my existence. It desperately needs a nerf. It hard-counters mage so hard it’s downright frustrating. There is no way to win that I’m aware of.
Because Evokers are so similar I imagine you have a similar problem - it’s a melee’s meta due to excessive interruptions, but which I mean anything that stops a cast and might do more, so nearly any CC except roots and disarms really, and high mobility.
This is a problem that is far more structural to PvP though. “Buff Evoker” won’t do squat.
Nothing is a ‘main dps spec’. You’re either a dps spec or not.
THey do well on PVE parts. Especially Persevation.
DH was incredible OP for a rather simplistic class to ply
Ah I meant the main story/main new class of the expansion. I expected them to be better than this xD I guess they made them this weak to not repeat the mistake of how the other hero classes ruined everything by being too op. Death knights, demon hunters and even monks did better than this, but I dont count monk as a hero class.
And yes, it is melee who ruins everything. I just want some antimelee tools. Like a reflect:D