Ask to the alliance russians ,how they win with the same map.
Is not the map,just the players.
Even if Blizzard will “fix” the map and place your spawn point in the nose of drek,you will still getting rekt.
There is no coordination with healers,casters and melees in the alliance side. I see healers still standing trying to cast long heals(gl with it),positioned in between the casters lines and meele (healers should be at the back,maybe paladins can risk more due the bubble), just in range for our casters and hunters, ready to be oneshot/silenced/sheeped/feared by courtesy of our casters and hunters(i m quite bored to oneshoot priests/healadins with my shadowbolt),the melee just charging mindlessly away from their healers,and casters and hunters just being blasted away.
I tend to chuckle when a lonely gnome/human mage just jump in front of 20 hordes “trying” to aoe,they usually get a nice timed silence before getting ripped/teared apart,first learn to aoe properly you need at least 4-5 mages at same time(in order to create chaos in the healers,casters lines),not one by one, and get some backup from healers and melee also,a proper charge.Anyway…long short history l2p issues here.
Not a single cc from alliance…and they just try to fight when their numbers are 5:1 in even numbers they just fail miserably.
Rogues,special mention to alliance rogues,they are non-existant in battle,when they are in fact the best weapon in AV. They can create disruption in graveyards and towers,they can literally destroy an offensive by denying ressers and win tempo for alliance offensive,they can literally win a graveyard in the right moment(worst moment for the Horde). They can disrupt reinforcements picking away healers or sapping people…i dont see that often, a good rogue can create havoc on the backlines,and a backline is not only in the front.
This is Alliance EU pugs coordination effort in AV , and this is not what they used to be when they were doing premades(using discord,do you remember those glorious starting av days with Apes streaming those premades? ).
You abused the system to get premades. Now you get pugs,get over it and adapt.
So zug zug.
Fix maybe this first issue as alliance,and maybe we can start to talk about those map “issues”.
Remember the raid chat works ,use it for calls.We do that in horde side.
Protip: “Let them win” is not an attack order.