Fix Alterac Valley

[Bewarê-frostmane]

@Altermaniel-mograine

Why do you feel the need to lie about what my position is? I get that it’s difficult to defend your’s but it’s a bit childish to feel the need to make up what I’ve said instead of simply apologising for building a ridiculous straw man.

Alright, one last time just for you.
You’ve connected the map to the low win rate. Thereby connecting the map to the losses. ALL the losses.

Just because you didn’t say it directly, it doesn’t mean you’ve never said it. There are more layers than just the most shallow literal one to the way people communicate.

How about you try countering the actual points raised, hmm? Is it because… You can’t, more than the little you’ve already tried to? The same attempts to counter that got countered?

@Bewarê-frostmane

And of course, now a bunch of counter insults will come pouring in, yet never touching the actual counterarguments themselves, and many will not even read them all to begin with. So repetitions of the same arguments becomes inevitable.
It’s like a neverending echo. Gotta love social media, right?

@Bewarê-frostmane

I’m truly glad Blizzard doesn’t pay attention to you all.

AV situation is unplayable as alliance

Not sure who’s the one lying to himself. So on other maps that are almost symmetrical it’s basically a 50/50 win rate on both sides yet on this one completely asymmetrical map the Horde win ratio is 95%+ and it somehow is unrelated to the map and the advantages one side has on it but down to “trying to win” even though there is no issue with that on other maps. Also if you’re claiming that 10 people can capture and hold IB you’ve obliviously not played very much AV.

AV queue time

Not much can be done at this point of the game other than maybe reverting the queue changes they did or making massive map changes that they aren’t going to. Why would you willingly play a BG where you have to fight an uphill battle on an imbalanced map with almost no hope of winning unless the opposing team is absolutely terrible? It’s not fun. Most people are there just for the rep. They don’t know how to play the map at all and are only interested in getting it ASAP and then never queue AV ag…

What's up with the hate from alliance players on this forum?

Alliance winning every game lasted for like a week not two months so I don’t know what you’re talking about. And yes if horde doesn’t defend and tries to rush they are going to lose. I find it kind of funny how horde try to argue that the problem is the alliance attitude and what not yet the winrate in other BGs where the maps are much more symmetrical is basically 50/50 when it’s pug v pug despite the fact horde have longer queues there as well. Guess there is no problem with attitude there. W…

AV fix when? 99% horde win

Exactly. For some unknown and odd reason the (almost) symmetrical maps are a lot more fun to play on both sides and it’s perfectly reasonable to expect to have a way to win in almost every case (provided you’re not a pug vs a premade ofc) and the completely asymmetrical one produced this bad joke of a BG. Funny how that works.

You’ve alluded to the map being the reason many times over. Now stop obfuscating, please.

@Bewarê-frostmane

@Austenite-ashbringer

lol, lets change the map, idc, and then watch how you get 1% more wins, because that’s likely how much difference it would make at this point.

No, the same way the mindset has been the core issue on the Alliance side (partly thanks to premades, kinda spoiled 'em and made 'em never queue up as rankers in enough numbers ever again), it’d be affected by changing the map.

Except it wouldn’t actually have anything to do with the map design, it’d just affect their mindset. It’d have the placebo effect. Still doesn’t justify changing the map to soothe whining crybabies though.