Fix scaling in Legion raids!

https:.//www…icy-veins.com/forums/topic/54776-battle-for-azeroth-mobs-scale-to-item-level-making-them-almost-as-powerful-as-shadowlands-mobs/

(Take out the extra dots) above was posted recently - apparently BFA mobs are scaling to shadowlands ilevel gear.

Yes, I have read about this. As much as Ion’s theory is a complete nonsense, this raid i’m talking about, is not BFA. It’s Legion content, which even makes it worse.

What a complete of bullload this squishing and scaling is. The only thing i’m getting really sick of in this game.

As a 180 VDH tank I got wrecked from his melee swings (NOT TAESHALACH TECHNIQUE - THIS DESTROYED ME), and my friend died to pulsing damage which is unavoidable, as a 182 ilvl arms warrior. IN A RAID 2 EXPANSIONS OLD.

I’m sick to my stomach, sorry for overreacting, but I made 10 chars ready to farm the Shackled Urzul mount (only thing im missing from Legion). It’s making me so mad that a raid 2 expansions old is wrecking me apart.

As said above 10 times, for Legion raids and dungeons, they should implement atleast a 10 to 15 multiplier for damage done and damage taken. It’s nonsense right now.

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Even worse when you consider that it was easier at 120 than it is now. Some classes can’t do certain Legion mythic fights anymore even though they could before shadowlands. And it all takes a lot longer to kill making certain fights a problem.

Even older raids like ICC though the bosses aren’t a threat they take way longer to kill than they did.

More in the comments of this blue post that is, actually in a way, insulting to the playerbase.

Thanks to the poster above for pointing the Icy Veins link. This Ion’s statement is so pointless, and so out of reality, that it’s actually crazy. I would be ok to know they are working on a fix, or even saying that the prio at the moment is on certain things that affect the SL content - this would be 100% fine and I would respect this decision, but giving us this blue crap while being totally blindfolded with those scaling issues, is abnormal.

Still hoping to wake up soon, seeing all the hotfixes and added huge multiplier to all legacy content (not just BFA and Legion). You can all argue that we are weak since SL is out for 2 weeks, but cmon? Guy above me said that even ICC which is what, 5 expansions ago, is taking longer to die. Cmon bruh, atleast address the issue and say that you are making it live, instead of giving us crap.

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My warr has 193ilvl and i cant solo the majority of nighthold, and thats not even the last raid tier. I switch to fury just so i have atleast some self sustain but that doesnt help at all. I get absolutely obliterated by Goroth in Tomb and i havent even tried Antorus yet since i always survived felhounds with like 15% of hp before level squish so i most likely wont be able to kill them now. All it takes for mythic legion raids to be soloable is to implement the Strenght of Wrynn buff for Alli and its equivalent for horde like it is in ICC and nerf the dots, since thats what is killing most players. I dont know how hard to do that is since i have no experience in game development, and i understand that because of covid not that many developers can work (and yet you still underpay your employees and fire them so you can squeeze more profit out of the game, but thats a topic for a different discussion) and they are focused on shadowlands content instead of fixing prior expansion content, but i dont think it requires several people to do that, or does it? If not, just assign one guy to do it over the course of several weeks. It feels awful to still have to pug soon to be 4 years old content.

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the only way to fix ‘‘legion scaling’’ is to unsquish levels back to 120 :wink: with SL 130.

youre welcome

enjoy being lvl 60 in a half-done job by blizzsquish2020

I’m pretty sure ion said somewhere that it’s working as intended and will get better as we gain improved gear. Personally I think it’s lasiness they could easily Implement a hidden aura when we enter old content that boosts us so we can solo them easier.

Old raids is the only reason I play this game. Like someone said earlier, family and work limits the play time so we tend to avoid committing to new content raids.

For people wondering how level 50 fairs in the legion raids, only Paladin is successful at achieving something because of the constant heals but still I cannot complete Antorus / Tomb on LFR. Emerald and Nighthold is possible on LFR only.

I remember being able to do Hellfire Citadel with nighthold gear, that was only 1 expansion old. We are now 2 expansions old and struggling at even LFR. WoD raids are taking longer because extra hits are needed to down the boss. SoO took me ages to complete. ICC used to take me 24min to complete it was mostly running, 1 shooting the boss loot and run, now it takes 31min because bosses take extra hits. It is not only Legion that has been effected.

This is limiting how much I can achieve in my limited time. If this was intentional and working as intended then you will be able to solo Legion raids (2 expansions old raids) by the end of SL because that is when your gear would be good enough. I rather sit it out and wait for pre-expansion event for the next expansion (if there is one) to get final raid gear, no point paying now.

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Yet the promise doing the squish was that soloing old content would not be impacted. Now we see this is clearly the opposite. Like many of us feared.

I managed up to heroic mode, but mythic is impossible for legion raids atm. And I do not expect higher ilvl to make it easier because i am afraid there is some kind of hidden ilvl scaling on bosses. Higher lvl conduits will help though.

Fix BFA while you are at it as well since we should be able to solo that as well, like we could legion when BFA came out…

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Pretty sure I solod nighthold on Normal… Lvl 50 ret. You paladin has bad gear. Get into a mythic nyalotha pug get some loot :v:

As you were told by me and hundreds of others who were not a fan of a needless, pointless renaming of levels from 120>50

Indeed. I was part of the “they will screw this up” club, and they did. As expected. The worst part is that i am convinced this this intended. They do not want casuals running around with older mythic mogs / mounts.

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I agree with you. I love running old content for mogs and I was really looking forward to finally being able to solo mythic Legion raids and it’s impossible now :cry:.

I really want to run old legion and BFA stuff, but it does seem like Blizzard are deliberately keeping those expansions in state so people like me who loves playing old content solo… can’t do it.

How many expansions have to pass before legion mobs regarding of difficulty are allowed to be one shot?

4 expansions? 50 expansions? Like c’mon already.

-static hiss-

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Maybe they’ll add a shop option +100% damage to old raids for 48hrs for only 9,99€

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Another thread of the same topic. COMON blizzard take notice! People (including me) are suffering here, for people like us Shadowlands isn’t the new expansion … Legion is…

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Thanks for waking this thread up. I hope they will notice and fix it soon.

I only tried emerald dream and it wasn’t harder to solo than in bfa. Still, even in bfa antorus and probably tomb of sargeras were not soloable(at least for me), would be nice to make them soloable